“We Gotta Get Her Car But We Can’t Cause Another Accident”

Charles Perry always going after Cynthia’s car. Has been since April 2019. We have been told he calls her customers and tells them he’s her boyfriend and not to do business with her again. Perry was recorded again telling one of Cynthia’s customers “She has to make a car payment and we want her car so do go in there. If she asks for help don’t give it to her. ” Perry and his weirdo buddies were recorded earlier today saying “We gotta get her car and we can’t cause another wreck. We have to make sure she doesn’t make any money. ” When they actually do what they talked about it’s makes it very hard to argue that it’s not them in the recording. This information was obtained by the same police who provided the info in The McNamara Email of October 2015. They say this is a new part of a perjury charge, a new incident of harassment of their witness, coercion, a new stalking incident and a new grand larceny incident. Perry claimed in Court under oath he was conducting these types of interactions in the forum state of Oklahoma. They have been recorded talking about making sure her work has no customers and if they do “don’t give any to Cynthia”. When they do it, it makes it very difficult to argue that’s not them on the recording. These cops told Cynthia and anyone who will listen “The way that girl tears up a pole and with her personality she should be making six figures easy. There is no excuse for her to be broke but for Perry just flat stealing from her. We gotta get him on larceny. ” Perry has long said he intends to make Cynthia go broke so she has no choice but to take his bribes and that is somewhat what is outlined in The McNamara email. It goes back that far. When he gets caught on one attempt, he tries another. The intent is always the same: force her to lie.

Perry as of August 15 still going at her car and her money to coerce a lie. Click links below for more info



As of August 17, 2020 Perry was still being recorded still in alleged criminal activity. See more here:


Perry seems to think the recordings of their incriminating conversations is the only evidence there is. That’s a small part of it. See screenshots below of part of what was recorded this past weekend of Perry’s meetings where he and his guys sit around trying to figure out what to do to harm her next. (Weekend of August 15, 2020) This is just a small portion of what officers obtained this weekend.

Only a hacker would know what Cynthia’s ring tone is and whether or not her phone is off, on, or silenced. That is a crime and it is creepy as heck.

And they were recorded again on August 18, 2020 stating they really needed to get her car “so she can’t file another thing”. It is now established they intend to obstruct court proceedings. There is no money in her car . It would only be as it has been for years, to obstruct court proceedings criminal and civil.


And again September 1, 2020 Perry people recorded calling up to Oklahoma trying again to get her car.


Now the way these police do things is a little different than what you are other police do when it comes to elected officials. Most are afraid to confront power. Not these guys in fact the opposite is true. When someone runs for office they put themselves under the microscope and their private lives are subject to public scrutiny . You can get a whole lot more during the investigation process on a guy who put himself under the microscope than you can a private citizen so when have a target, if they can at all, the appeal to the targets ego and have people encourage them to run for office. That frees up a lotta things when they do. Perry being suspected for being a serial stalker, killer, peeper, and some other things put himself under the microscope. Also being he’s delusional, an egotistical ass, and mentally slow was very easy to convince to do that. That opens investigations much wider than on a private citizen because the subject chose to put themselves under the microscope. As such Perry has been caught in alleged crime more than ever before in his life.

In addition, not divulging too much right now but it appears there is a big effort to keep Cynthia from providing information to the Nealeys that might help him prove his innocence which they would not care if they did not murder Chief Miller and nearly Officer Nealey and when that failed, exactly like they did to Cynthia, and within that sane time frame, false arrest of both. If Charles Perry and his weirdo buddies didn’t do that, what do they care what Cynthia tells the Nealeys?

The officers that gave her the McNamara email said Perry’s recent actions get them at least harrassment of their witness, he’s got perjury, grand larceny and Cynthia has new causes of action for tortuious interference and conversion. These guys have her pretty detailed information for a crime Perry was maliciously planning, intending to cause her harm, and loss, and premeditated months before he carried it out. They have gone at Perry pretty hard more lately because of so much loss and harm and the threat he poses to Cynthia or anyone who catches him.

Information police provided, and are still at it, and this resulted in Cynthia arguing for her life with David Roberson in these texts of January 4, 2016. She had not even filed the police report for which Perry had her arrested for in Lubbock on January 29, 2016 yet and he knew that report had not been investigated yet, no detective taken evidence, and that it’s actually required by Oklahoma law. It was right on his denied Protective order as a reason the order was denied because she forgot to bring the report. And who is so careless with a domestic violence cases that they give the confidential report right to an alleged violent offender. How many people suffered and died because that irresponsible person did that? There is a think called depraved indifference and that is what that individual showed. The police that protected Cynthia got the info on the McNamara email and the information on Perry interfereing with her customers and taking her money are all over him and most would have the good sense to stop and it’s not Texas Rangers by the way or TPD. That’s not to say some in law enforcement in Oklahoma aren’t helping but they have to stay quiet about it because Perry poses a threat. He threatens cops if they do their job. If he didn’t have anything to do with Chief Miller’s murder and Nealeys attempted murder and frame up then what does he care about how much money Cynthia has, whether her bills are paid or always go at her car like he does? Acts show consciousness of guilt so we just got more against him. We got more. We have a pile already.

Perry got caught again tonight telling one of her customers “Don’t go in tonight and if she asks for help tell her ‘No'”  don’t give her any money. ” What business is it of his? Perry told the Judges he was not doing this and got her civil cases dismissed. We all know he is doing this and doing it a lot and it’s a crime and a serious crime. Just because he got away with it all these years doesn’t mean he will this time. He’s not. His crimes are more uncovered than ever before in his life and TPD had nothing to do with that nor did Lubbock PD or the Texas Rangers. Law Enforcement is to relieve suffering caused by crime. That’s the job. Thankfully someone is. Perry has caused untold hardship and suffering for a lot of people and he has leaks because the public wants him stopped. Everyone wants him stopped. It’s enough. These other guys have cast a wider net. For locals to sit on their ass is unacceptable.

Cynthia was raised in the home of an elected official and Police Chief. She’d been in politics all he life. Perry is a small town bore. He has no right to slander her by telling people she would stoop so  low as be in a romance with Charles Perry and she wants no contact from him. He’s a stalker not a love interest. The slander is causing both socio and economic loss. Perry’s imaginary relationship has imposed on too many other people for too long. That’s why he’s caught more than ever in his life. The public is sick of it.


Click here to see evidence of Erotomania in Perry’s background and conduct


Because he’s been caught in crime more than ever in his life the investigating officers observed “Maybe he’s not obsessed with you. Maybe he’s obsessed with men and needs a way to be with men without having to explain it to his wife. Prison would get him that so maybe it’s more about wanting that and his criminal attack on you is just the vehicle to get him there. I have never seen anyone do this while he’s being investigated and he knows he is, like he’s trying to get locked up and nobody wants that unless they need men. Why else would he keep going at you when we catch him as many times as we have but that? ” Who knows. That’s just an observation based on actions of a man who has been caught in crime more than ever before in his life and does not stop.

But again for the record, Charles Perry is always after Cynthia’s car. Charles Perry is always after Cynthia’s car. Charles Perry is constantly after Cynthia’s car and we have said this and said this and said this since April, 2019 and he knows her car is being closely watched by cops and her income and still goes at her and goes at her and goes at her. And it’s documented herein as another threat, burden, hardship he maliciously causes.

And again 9pm August 12, 2020

Also part of complaint filed with Mannford PD, report taken by Officer Mike Nealey just 6 days before Chief Miller’s Murder. The complain was filed for vandalism and no suspect named. Cynthia said “It’s likely related to my civil suit because they have made threats, I believe caused an accident with my previous car and I don’t know anyone else who does bazaar shitty crap like this but them. See more evidence and documentation of Perry stalking, harassment and threats below

Link to More On Nealey Case


Click here to see more on Facebook. Perry guy recorded upset Cynthia is not completely broke


Update as of August 5, 2020 5:00 pm, in sending a cease and desist letter or proper legal notice to Defendants, the Office of the Texas Attorney General responds by telling Cynthia she’s an idiot.

Quote from Facebook “

This guy, Seth Dennis, works for the Governor of Texas and the Attorney General, Ken Paxton. His response to a legal notice is “You are an idiot!” At least we have confirmation of his receipt.” This is the typical unprofessional childish and bazaar way these guys act. It might be okay in Texas but it’s not okay in Oklahoma.

See post here


See emails here.

As of 8:20 PM August 5 2020 Still going at her car according to police. They are gonna prove her right or wrong with whatever they do. The police don’t mind having that for their case.

Click here to see what appears to be a spoofed Facebook account of Defendants pretending to be Lisa Nealey trying to reach out to Cynthia only the information appears to be intended to give out misinformation and is not consistent with information we obtained or Officer Nealeys interview.


Click here to see outline of events leading up to Chief Miller’s murder, the link between Defendants Perry, Roberson, Powell, Burson, and Chadwick and that murder and over Cynthia’s car. The case for Officer Nealeys Innocence is detailed on the page linked below.


Charles Perry again recorded on August 7, 2020 telling his guy to get her car towed tonight and make sure she has can fare. This threat also documented in August, 2019 on Facebook. See link


As of 9pm, August 12, 2020 Defendants still trying to get Cynthia’s car. Recording obtained by police and given to her, then to her attorney, then here posted in this photo.

Recording obtained indicating Powell wants Cynthia’s computer and password. Not one legal reason he needs that but that he is attempting still to intimidate, coerce, discredit, and cover up corruption and maybe murder.


Click here to see info on Perry’s family’s liability and legal protection for Whistleblowers.


Click here to see Shrinks comments on Perry’s medical problems leading to offensive and allegedly criminal conduct and his family’s medical neglect addressed

August 12, 2020 9 PM

Metaphors and analogies are clearly understood by anyone with average intelligence and will not be explained for Defendants who have shown to be slow in putting easy concepts together. Defendants Perry, Powell, Roberson, Burson and Chadwick can and may be charged with perjury for any statements contradicted in their criminal case. Information herein in all posts only represents a small portion of what is available to prove a crime is being committed and Cynthia Ortiz is only one of many victims and witnesses. Any order procured through fraud or deception, resulting in an order used to then procure property or results in the loss of property, freedom, peace or any legal protections thereof will result in not one but two criminal charges, one being the order procured through fraud a d the loss of property or rights resulting from illegal use of an illegally procured order particularly taking Cynthia’s car. DISCLAIMER:  This disclaimer shall apply to each and every post on Facebook and all blogs and posts on justice4cyn.com. We assert our 1st Amendment Right to FREE Speech (Sullivan v NY Times, Garrison v Louisiana), and Protections under Domestic Violence Laws, Victims Rights Laws, Title 18 USC (The RICO Act),  anti-stalking and harassment laws, and rights against malicious and selective prosecution. Cynthia Ortiz is no different than all women in the #MeToo movement or any other victim of stalking and harassment. Perry and his weirdo buddies do not have the right to a cover up. The public has the legal and moral right to know what he does to her. Perry has leaks because people in Oklahoma, the public, does not like what he is doing to her. Normal people have empathy and don’t like one person causing malicious intentional harm to another. We understand Perry has a forged marriage license and/or Power of Attorney Cynthia has heard about but never seen much less signed. These documents are not legal. No consent was ever obtained and anyone who gives out protected private information of Cynthia is subject to litigation particularly when they failed to due diligence and authenticate these forged documents. Cynthia wants no contact with Charles Perry of any kind ever. She changed careers and moved twice to get away from him and avoid a conflict. His contact of any kind in all forms is offensive and criminal. Defendants were recorded discussing having someone take Cynthia’s purse, wallet, Driver’s License and keys from her workplace just as they did her social security card and her car. This would be part of provocation they were previously told “You cannot claim her emails, texts or whatever she tweets or anything on the internet is harassing to you when you are the one provoking. That’s entrapment. You cannot claim she is the one harrassing you when all she does is tell on you. She’s entitled to free speech, other women talk about abusive men just like she is and you cannot prevent her from talking about what you are doing to her or prevent her from expressing anger about it. The public has the right to know what you do in your personal life. She has the right to protect herself and you don’t have the right to keep her from protecting herself or from expressing anger about what you do to her. ” Defendants also, in not liking Dr Russell’s assessment were recorded stating “Dr Russell can’t change now what she said back then so we can’t say she’s just crazy. We have to get her back in therapy and get a doctor to say that ” All has been recorded and given to police on another case that have protected Cynthia for years. People don’t like what he’s doing to her. No normal person would tolerate that crap. Being Perry claimed in a Court of law, under oath, that he does not relevant business in the forum state of Oklahoma, when he sends his guys into work pretending to be customers, and we know they don’t do that for free, Cynthia, talking to strangers in a strip club that could potentially be deadly to her, tells some truth and some bullshit, intentionally and methodically and then laughs as they go running out thinking they got something, similar to what Defendant Roberson did in having Lady Godivas waitress ask her if the FBI was investigating. If Perry is not paying people to proxy stalk that will come out in Court as it will if he is. Charles Perry is not even a friend of Cynthia Ortiz much less any kind of romantic interest. He has made these claims against her wishes, without her consent, and these acts constitute slander and defamation and have caused her significant socio and economic loss. Perry is not someone Cynthia would stoop so low as to give the time of day to. He is also a married man, his wife, Jacquelyn Perry, may or may not have knowledge of his comments and false statements to people in Oklahoma about the status of his marriage. To Cynthia, Charles Perry is just a rejected stalker and strange bazaar person who appears to suffer from delusion, Erotomania, sadism, psychopathy, psychosis, antisocial disorder, and is sociopathic. He’s really made no effort to prove otherwise. She had the right to privacy and all legal protections from him under the law and we hereby assert those rights. The word “allegedly” shall be considered for all posts and comments herein.  Whatever imaginary fantasy he runs through his mind is not real for sure not to her. This is hereby public to establish premeditation and intent of Defendants Perry et Al to commit a crime against Cynthia Ortiz and any victim or witness as described. The word “You” is a general term and in all posts herein, shall be for whom it applies. Metaphors and analogies are clearly understood by anyone with average intelligence and will not be explained for Defendants who have shown to be slow in putting easy concepts together. Defendants Perry, Powell, Roberson, Burson and Chadwick can and may be charged with perjury for any statements contradicted in their criminal case. Information herein in all posts only represents a small portion of what is available to prove a crime is being committed and Cynthia Ortiz is only one of many victims and witnesses. Any order procured through fraud or deception, resulting in an order used to then procure property or results in the loss of property, freedom, peace or any legal protections thereof will result in not one but two criminal charges, one being the order procured through fraud a d the loss of property or rights resulting from illegal use of an illegally procured order particularly but not limited to taking Cynthia’s car.

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