Perry Carries Out Threats To Attempt To Starve Cynthia Into A Lie

When Charles Perry carries out his threats that we have all talked about for months, what is it exactly he thinks she is supposed to lie about? He did exactly what she said he’d been threatening and this is not the first time he’s done that. He has taken her money, again. He has made her homeless as he threatened for over a year. He has had a family member refuse to help unless she goes back to Texas, supporting the recording of Perry in March, 2020 “We have one in Tulsa that we are gonna have to force back to Texas so we can do more to her. She can sleep under a bridge and starve or she is going to lie for us and say what we tell her to say. “. He has done all of that. She just hasn’t lied. For that though, police got more information today to use in Perry’s criminal case.

See documents in support of claims herein posted here:

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And here:

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Perry’s Guy “When Charles pesters Cynthia and takes her money, things don’t go well for us. We are seeing things happen we have never seen before. ” And Perry says “Do it more. She is gonna lie, or be under a bridge with no food until she does.”

When he continues to do exactly what we say, what is she supposed to lie about? Our guy said “At no time did she have to lie. She is not to be pressured in any way at all to lie. We do appreciate however Mr. Perry’s continued acts showing he knows he’s guilty of very serious crime or he wouldn’t bother. “

Did he want her to lie about knowing Mike Nealey was drugged before anyone said it or that it was confirmed months after she said it? Does he want her to lie about his attack on her finances and threats of starvation to force a lie? He’s doing exactly what he threatened so please don’t all us, Mr. Perry, what is it she should lie about?

To attorneys :

“Police recording: “It really concerns me that her ex husband never responded to her. Here she’s telling him, the mother of your son had a threat of false arrest from a stalker. I told you about it. Then he did carry out that threat. You want me to go back to a state that is clearly not a safe place for me to be in fact they will likely kill me.” There is plenty of reasons for me to be too afraid to go to Texas. We have seen what he will do. You can clearly see how low this guy will go. You get nothing back? She said she does not believe that he was speaking for himself and I can’t imagine that he would just say nothing to her when she’s said something that profound. He says nothing. I have a hard time believing that those were his words and he’s not been told to coax her as she puts it to her death. Now you got this woman who caught serious problems in the murder trial of a police officer and the attempted or what appears to be the attempted of this guy who actually her complaint and Cynthia’s money situation already bad became serious. She had nothing after she contacted Gene Mitchell. So you got a serious problem here. You got a guy asking her how she knew he had to be begged or she says coaxed to a place where his life blew up using her family to coax her where she knows already he will blow hers up and hers is pretty blown up already. It almost can’t get any worse than it is but for a murder. You watch this deal where she’s said for a long time this is what Perry does to women. He has family member berate these women when he is the one causing the problems because he’s getting a sexual thrill out of that and then here we are nearly a year or so later, she’s showing some unusual activity on her Dasher App and not just that no orders are coming for half an hour, mind you right at dinner time, but then the app is not working in the texts feature nor is the camera working in the feature that gives the Dasher the proof of delivery. All that happened within one hour or so. She has right here this recording from this Pinto guy and this Roberson guy, this James guy and this Wagoner guy all going to her work. We have all accounts a delusional man who has gone all over Oklahoma indicating his belief that there is a relationship here with a woman who has rejected him, moved twice to get away from him, sued him three times and made it very clear she is not interested. He’s still telling people here almost 10 years after she’s left town in the first move, she’s got this 2014 email telling this Quinn Sullivan get him off me. That’s almost 10 years and Perry always in Oklahoma. Carried out a threat of false arrest. Has done nothing but threaten a second and murder and economic loss and she’s got property loss, 5 accidents not her fault in a very short period of time. 3 years. Also of note is her absence in anything court wise. Never is she there. Why not? Why is he keeping her from telling her story in court? ” “Well I think that’s obvious. I think that’s obvious. ” “Yes it is. So there is so much here as to support of her claims and his decisions not being normal. He’s simply not a normal guy. So that brings me back to what has happened here in Florida with these two police officers as to what they intended to do with her complaint and who they told that resulted in 6 days later, the murder of one, the attempted murder of the other and a criminal conviction that doesn’t make any sense. Who did they talk to and what did they say that result in a death? Mr. Perry was in communications with those officers as was Mr. Burson and Mr. Powell. Did one of them talk with them and those officers expressed an interest in pursuing charges? My guess is that it may have been Mr. Powell. I think that Mr. Powell had been talking with them regularly about this second false arrest and came at them like he believed himself to have some authority over her when he clearly had none. He had something to cover up in his participation of this first arrest and it seems called them and let them know he intended to pursue these plans they made on the harassment deal and my guess is Chief Miller at that time made this statement that she read where he said they were tired of being asked to pull her over all the time and investigate complaints about her that turned up to be nothing. So we got a conversation here where I think Miller told Matt to hold off and let him investigate further and that due to prior neighbor reports that cars were pulling up to take photos of her, that said here by Ms. Collins and Ms. Bradley, and this photo here showing one of them, Miller expressed to Mr. Powell that he had some concerns about their claims of being harassed, he wanted him to back off, hold off on pursuing any charges against her for what would constitute a second fraud upon a Court and let him investigate more when he returned. Powell then expresses this to the other four Defendants. It might be that that is when they begin to pressure Nealey go attend as well. We don’t know if that trip was planned by Miller before he took her complaint or after. That is a key element in how this all played out and who he talked to but I believe it was Mr. Powell being asked to back off while he got more information. Now you got him doing the same thing to Cynthia and going so far as to hack her app and interfere with her family helping her to do exactly the same thing. That’s why her ex husbands failure to respond is very significant and if great concern to me. That is mother of his one and only son and he refuses to respond to her reasonable fear. Why would you not respond to something like that on the mother of your one child? I can’t see that being something that was not coerced by Mr. Perry. I believe they are directing communications to Coerce so it’s that they have set up a situation to where she’s broke. They caused it abd they caused it on purpose then have the ex come in here and tell her “I will not help you unless you come to a place where we all know good and well is not safe. ” You think to the mother of his one and only child he’s going to do that to her? I don’t think he would. She doesn’t think he would. There are several prior texts or emails about Perry using her ex husband to do his bidding. This plane ticket deal here where they all knew if they towed her car, she’d call him, and at that point a plane ticket had already been purchased by Mr. Perry. He’s already called a cab company. He’s not even towed the car yet and he’s already been in talks with an airline and bought a plane ticket. He’s already been in talks with her ex husband. He’s already told the ex husband to tell her he bought the plane ticket and now they are talking with a cab about taking her to the airport and there hasn’t even been the tow yet and she gets all that information beforehand. Can you believe that? So then this text after all of that, continues to support that Charles Perry is stalking her and had hacked her phone and is talking with her family. All of that supports the belief that he intended to basically steal her money so she can’t survive. He then intends to force her to a place that is clearly dangerous. This other guy will not participate in doing to her. They use her ex. So what else can you conclude? He is a stalker. He does intend to do something to her that would be deadly. He does wish to make her say something that isn’t true. How do you convince people she’s telling the truth when you got all that after she’s told people for well over a year that Perry wanted to starve her into a lie. Do you see how insane it is that he thinks that after she has told everyone for over after she has told everyone for over a year that he’s trying to starve me back to Texas where I’m not safe. He’s trying to starve me to make me say things I know are not true thinking after I have told people what he’s doing to me, they’d believe me and the thing is she doesn’t want them to. She would not tell people that Mr. Perry is trying to make her lie if she wanted people to believe the lie. She clearly does not want that. She wants instead to point out what he’s doing that is criminal. She wouldnt tell everyone “he’s trying to force me against my will to say what he wants. His words, not my words” if she truly wanted to pass off Perry’s lie as the truth. “

I rarely confirm or deny these types of recordings but I am confirming this one. I’m tired of being pressure to lie. I’m tired of being pressured to be in some romance with Charles Perry. I’m tired of him bothering me, threatening me, harassing me, invading my privacy, ignoring my rejection, ignoring the law, ignoring normal healthy boundaries and of being starved. I’m sick and tired of his imposing and causing problems and hacking and creeping on me and making trouble. We all are. He’s the source of a great amount of stress and anxiety and fear. We are all sick and tired of being forced to deal with it.

From The Desk of Cynthia R Ortiz
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“Identify your problems, but give your power and energy to solutions.” — Anthony Robbins”

Last night she filmed her door dash App at prime time dinner with not one order she could do for half an hour. After that half hour, she gets one order she could however it was Perry’s person. He’s trying to get her fired by having people ask that their order be handed to them, then even after they get the order, complain that it was not delivered. He’s fine now twice already and after a certain amount of those, you get fired. This supports our witness statement. It is severe psychological and economic abuse. It is also “Interference with commerce and contracts and grand larcey with intent to coerce”.

The one order she gets after half an hour if nothing, 2 she couldn’t do because it would cost more in gas and time than she’s make, she takes the delivery, the request is that it be handed to the customer or in this case left with the receptionist. She tried to take a photo. The camera app crashed. She tried to text the customer as per her request to be notified when the delivery was left with the receptionist. The in app text crashed as well. She’d have to use her personal texting apps which she won’t do and Perry knows that. Thankfully, she had another camera with her and was able to get the photo anyways so she could prove delivery. When a delivery doesn’t pay at least $1.50 per mile, you pay more in gas and time than you make. It is not unusual to get a few of these but not 7 hours worth. That is Perry, not Door Dash and our guys know that. He’s stealing her money which he did the same when she was dancing. Perry would rent out the club, run off paying customers and send his 5 guys in with peanuts. Our guys hired a consultant who is now working on the Door Dash issues and freelance writing. He said “The clubs where she works are very different clubs on nights she works and when she doesn’t. By her third year, she should have been making 6 figures. He ran everyone off. This is blatant economic abuse and interference with commerce and whatever cjntracts she’s not able to fulfill because he’s taking her money. He will be charged every time he does that. He’s wanting to change her testimony. She’s not interested. She’s made that clear. He’s causing intentional financial strain and duress to make her change her court testimony. That is as coercive as it gets. “

Back to Door Dash
Since Perry has had his people call in and claim they didn’t get deliveries they did indeed get, she now takes photos for all deliveries no matter the instructions to prove delivery because Perry is proving out our witnesses’ statements that he gets women fired intentionally, keeps them from finding another job, they lose the house. Then he has the ex take the kids away and blows up the lives of otherwise happy stable homes. He has family berate his victims. He texted Cynthia and asked about his other victims seeking information from her as to who they were or who is talking to police. It was in the same text he sent sending her subpoena to testify in the murder of a police officer, and how she knew Officer Nealey had to be begged to go to Pensacola. He was coaxed and his life blew up. The information we have is that Powell was pressuring Chief Miller to get Cynthia on a false claim of harassment, as per emails about Perry’s intent to provoke and harass and entrap and claim he’s being harrassed when Cynthia talked. He threatened her car. She then had 5 wrecks where she was hit in the 3 years that followed and one incident of vandalism reported to Miller and Nealey just 6 days before the murder. Powell pressured. Miller backed him off. Nealey said “I think you need to hold off arresting her for harassment. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that that same powder was all over the room a few doors down from her and we need to look into it further. ” Burson then, we believe is the individual who coaxed Nealey to go on that dearly trip. It was planned. All of that was planned. At the same hotel where Cynthia was staying, there was a death that appeared to be of natural causes however, there was an ex girlfriend with a history so Miller wanted to rule out foul play. He attended the conference in Pensacola to learn more on making determinations on deaths in differentiating natural causes versus murder or suicide because of that death. That was why they went to Pensacola. Nealey had to be begged or coaxed, Perry says in a spoofed Facebook account message. He first spoofed Lisa Nealey’s account and when caught, he changed the name on the account. Now Perry is working an angle to coax Cynthia to Texas. He will kill her. He’s already tried more than once. (see Emails Here)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/12/lucky-miller-michael-nealey-mannford-oklahoma-murder/

The people around Miller and Nealey every day said the fight didn’t make sense. That is because there was no fight. Nealey was drugged. She said that months before it was confirmed in depositions. He passed out. Miller began fighting with the killer after asking “What did you give him? He’s passed out. What did you put in his drink?” And remember the arsenic in Cynthia’s. This is the MO as is obstructing police investigations and degrading evidence, coercing and tampering with witnesses and perjury. They do it all the time. When plane 1 hit the world trade, no one knew exactly what was happening. But it didn’t take the one in Pennsylvania or the Pentagon to know after the 2nd hit we were under attack. This was intentional. It was intended to kill. This is no different. Mike wasn’t tested while unconscious and in respiratory distress. He was tested at the hospital after having been given Narcan and he’d “come to”. The chemical composition at that point had been changed by the Narcan. We don’t know what his blood looked like that caused him to be unscious and in respiratory distress because with treatment unfortunately he suffers evidence degradation. That’s 2 now. That’s 2 within a week if a police report being filed, one against Perry and the other “It might be stalking related. No one saw. We can’t know for sure without police investigating to make that determination.” However because of the murder so close after the report was filed and the Vandalism just after threats specifically to her car, it seems much more likely than before that Perry did the vandalism or had it done. We see Jodi Arrington vandalize Travis Alexander’s car, then the next escalation is murder in the first. Stalkers are dangerous, the officers tell us on Connecting The Dots.

That video is here:

The brick that totaled her car, we have reason to believe was intended to bust her skull in 2 the way it did her engine. She went out a different way having seen Perry’s guy at the end of the drive when she left that night. She was avoiding that guy, it delayed her about 2 minutes and probably saved her life. The brick hit the asphalt because she was further behind than they thought. He’d also had her pousined at work and hoped to explain it away as an unfortunate work hazard. “Bad people go in a strip club. We just say it’s that. She was drugged and died. She shouldn’t have been working in a strip club. She put herself at risk. We just say that. No one will know we did it. “. They admitted it in a text though, to arsenic poisoning, and then Perry obstructed all blood tests and proper collection of the evidence by local police. He held her illegally against her will while the arsenic worked it’s way out if her system. Had he not done that, he would have demanded a test to show there was no arsenic in her blood and she just lied. Instead he made sure there was no test because he knew results would show he was indeed trying to kill her by having arsenic put in her drinks at work. He goes at his victims at their work. You have to go to work. He’s terrorizing families in doing so. He will kill her first chance he gets. His guy, Mickey James, texted Cynthia that he watched her behind the scenes, signed an Non Disclosure, and that “It might be worth the risk of the speculating on Perry we saw in the Condit/Levy case. Those texts can be seen at links here

Video of the Perry’s hack of Cynthia’s Dasher App

Part 2

Cynthia signed up for Door Dash, Grub Hub, Uber Eats and one other delivery service. Door Dash tells us he cannot chose the driver to have his people get Cynthia to do with this girl did to get her fired or get a photo on a doorbell camera or other surveillance without hacking. Driver’s are chosen by algorithm. Without peeping to watch her get ready for work and leave, without hacking her apps, for all he knows she’s at home watching TV or at the spa. He cannot possibly know these details of her life in order to make problems by legal means. He’s a delusional whackjob. He’s embarrassing himself but he’s also severely mentally impaired, our Shrink says, and unable to know he’s delusional or that he should be as embarrassed as he makes everyone else. He’s a rejected failure too stupid to go be normal and move on as all normal people can do. He cannot keep up with even normal folks. He’s told on because he’s pissing everyone off with this and cannot seem to understand that. It’s not clicking for him. He’s a certified fruitcake. He’s making everyone barf.
Now he is still doing exactly what our witness said he does. See texts and emails posted here.

From earlier

41,000 emails representing 41,000 recordings of Perry et Al discussing what shitty illegal thing they were gonna do to cause injury to Cynthia in the forum state of Oklahoma next. Perry put it out that he was looking to buy the recordings. He has no takers. Those who have them and have heard them are so angry at him for putting her through all this, as he has carried out and followed through with many of the plans he discussed and caused profound, substantial, Catastrophic, tangible loss for her that there is no amount of money they would take so he could get them and destroy them. The injuries are devastating. 41,000 is the number of only that which pertains to her, and not all by far. She is not the only victim and she doesn’t type up everything they play for her. No time. Many times he knows of the emails and he does it anyways as we saw with The McNamara Email and The Harassment Emails posted here. He planned a false arrest and carried it out and while Cynthia was illegally incarcerated for the first he planned the second. He intended to harass her and when she talked about it, claim he was being harassed. In both cases he committed perjury and fraud and did so knowing she had already had emails talking about his intent to do so. He knew she had them before he did what the emails say he intended to do. Who the hell does that? These things are discussed by Perry, recorded by a leak or police. Played for Cynthia. she types it up in emails to Phillip and Mallory. That establishes mens rea and malicious aforethoght. Perry might could argue the insanity defense being it is not in any way sane to know you are caught premediating crime and you do it anyways, but for the acts showing consciousness of guilt. Because of that, he shows he understands fully that his acts are criminal acts. You can only assert the insanity defense if you don’t know your act is a crime. He knows or he wouldn’t try to cover it up. We get the information beforehand, not after. It’s not an after thought to explain something away. It’s obtained before. He’s had no such injuries or losses.

Like Neal in the Tik Tok videos below, Perry threatens the same. He is gonna “get” Cynthia. He threatens. That might explain why he can’t get a date and he’s told on. No one wants the creepy peeper or the cruel abusive one. Everyone is very very sick and tired of Perry’s invasion of her privacy and cruelty. He’s told on. He’s told on. Leaked on. Ratted out. Has deep throats because he’s mean. Our Shrink and a witness state that Perry is a sadist. We aren’t seeing him do a thing to prove that wrong. He’s done everything he can to prove that right, actually. He seems to enjoy ruing lives. Doesn’t set well with normal folks. He’s forcing himself on a woman who can’t stand him like Neal. He’s no different just more cruel. He’s alone for a reason. He’s told on for a reason. He can’t seem to put that together in his head that nobody likes what he’s doing.

Also, Cynthia goes by Cynthia. She’s not introduced herself as “Cyndi” in a decade. She doesn’t go by “Cyndi”. She goes by Cynthia. She can tell when Perry has been stalking and creeping around people in her life when they don’t call her by the right name. She introduced herself as Cynthia, not Cyndi.

So much more evidence in support of claims herein at links below.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1375940539569153&id=100014596601592

Perry is the same as TikTok Stalker Neil and causes the same anger and fear as he did to TikTok Stalking Victim Loreboree. Stalking is a domestic violence crime in all 50 states. Violent subjugation of a woman who doesn’t like some weird dude is a crime in all 50 states.

https://www.unilad.co.uk/viral/woman-who-caught-her-stalker-on-film-claims-police-didnt-take-her-seriously/

6 times she asked to be left alone. He comments on her clothes which he was not asked his opinion. He was asked to leave her alone.

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdhgjjYS/

When a woman asks to be left alone, leave her the fuck alone:

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This is what it’s like to have to live with a maniac forcing himself on you and Perry is much worse that this guy:

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It’s like being raped everyday

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdx62C2k/

Perry threatens to “get” Cynthia and goes at her family just as Neal does here. He also claims to have photos of her as does Neal. Stalkers are the same.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdsuAQ4j/?k=1

Victims are re-traumatuzed every single day.

The National Stalker Resource Center provides training for law enforcement, judges, prosecutors and victims. This video trains on older stalkers and the use of technology to stalk being used more often than not particularly when the older stalker has the means to afford technology as Mr. Perry does:

Proper Police Protocol in Taking Stalking Reports Or Reports Of Crimes Believed To Be Stalking Related At Link Below:

See NRSC The Use Of Technology To Stalk Here:

Evidence of Charles Perry’s use of technology to stalk here:

Included herein is an attempt to collect a debt for Perry’s peeping Tom problem without having to pursue Court Remedy either through restitution in his criminal case or civil court if needed. He doesn’t have consent and he’s obtaining a stolen service and an illegal one without Cynthia’s permission. He is to cease and desist immediately and he’s being charged for being entertained and making a profit off of her body, her property, her utilities, with no consent and no compensation. She said No! Her fees are $1,000.00 per day for peeping plus $2,000.00 per day for peeping without her consent or a contract. She does not consent. This is a serious violation of her right to privacy. It’s crime, not a date.

Perry is a public figure and the public entitled to know of criminal activity. He’s not exempt any more than Bill Clinton, Gary Condit, Anthony Weiner, or any of these other public figures who had a secret life. Cynthia is no different than the Tik Tok girl, Susan Wilson, Pauly Perretti, David Letterman, Jodi Foster, Drew Carey or any other victim of stalking and coercion. He acts like his crime is different and we’d like to know how is it different?

Perry hired guys too to go to her work where she is. This one solicited prostitution on Perry’s behalf offering her $5,000 “to be creeped out by him for a few hours”. She recorded him. She had to go to work. Having people go to her work scares her, bothers her, creeps her out and costs her a shit ton of money when she has to avoid the danger and menacing. Click link below to hear the recording:

This Pinto person went to Cynthia’s work and offered Cynthia $5,000 for a night of sex with Perry. She recorded him and of course refused. The recording and transcripts are available at the link above. What’s the difference between Perry and Bill Clinton, Anthony Weiner, Roger Ailes and the man other politicians who couldn’t keep their pants zipped up?

Dr. Russell discusses his stalking escalations being so catastrophic Cynthia is not able to just ignore him. If you are trying to get work done on a computer or cell phone and he’s jamming it up or typing over your typing that would be difficult to ignore. He pokes at her all day and provokes our guys so they do get more of what goes on in his secret little meetings where he plans a catastrophic loss. As many times as she’s said “I’m not told who informants are. I don’t even know which of the 40 to inform to, or how. Wouldn’t help you if I did because I want for you to be gone. ” He still asks every day. That does mean there is something to leak and when he does what we say we got information on after we say it, he proves out the recording and we have another “I told you so.”

Special Page For Videos and Podcasts Perry Blocked From Posting Forcing Alternative Methods At Link Below:

The evidence has built up over time and is chapter and versed at links below. Perry wasn’t getting caught until he went at Cynthia. When he bothers Cynthia, he gets caught and he’s been caught more than ever in his life. If you are watching all this as it unfolds, you will notice we have to repeat ourselves a lot. Count how many times Lo had to tell her stalker to leave her alone. It’s like things don’t click for these stalker types like they do everyone else. Perry gets caught, gets mad about it and wants to know who told but goes right back at it.

And here:

Case overview with inclusion of NRSC training videos

We assert all Constitutional Rights including but not limited to the First Amendment, held in NYT Co. V Sullivan and Garrison v Louisiana. We assert the 14th Amendment Right to Equal Protection under the laws including but not limited to laws protecting women against voyeurism, hacking, stalking violence, economic abuse, murder, coercion, and rape. We assert the right to equal protection provided in Title 18 USC 1512 and 1513, domestic violence laws, anti stalking laws and all laws intended to protect victims of crime. Misogyny and gender discrimination are as bad as racism.

CJ-2018-02775 Tulsa County Ok State Court Malicious Prosecution And Seeking Domestic Violence Stalking Protective Order. Perry never allowed a fair hearing or trial where Cynthia was in Court to show evidence, put witnesses on the stand or cross Perry’s or examine him and his co-defendants on the stand. He intentionally impeded appeals. She was intentionally kept from Court, in line with Perry’s habit of concealment, and the burden of proof is on her, the Plaintiff. Same is the case in

US Federal
4:17-00489-JHP-JFJ. NDOK
5:18-CV-00137-C NDTX

Both the case in ND TX and the state case Perry did exactly what is described in the harassment emails dating back to 11/2017. “Send her home, harass the hell out of her then claim she’s harassing us when she tells on us. ” He did do exactly that twice. He did it long after those emails were sent. Emails can be seen here:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1342860946210446&id=100014596601592

These are texts to Fabian the night Mr. Roberson went to Cynthia’s workplace and told her she must recant her court testimony or he’d put her in the lake. She talked to Roberson about her aggravation that Perry butt in to things that are none of his business and that same night texted Fabian about that discussion. As you can see there is nothing on these texts even remotely related to what a person needs to do to pass laws in Texas.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1011448742685003&id=100014596601592

Her communications to friends were about stalking, not politics therefore our Shrink believes he, Mr. Powell and Mr. Burson are not able to identify Perry’s Legislative Duties, which state he legislates in or metaphors, analogies and sarcasm. Their actions indicate they are simply unable to identify those simple facts. These communications were 5 years before she could have anticipated they’d be unable to perform an easy function while under oath and penalty of perjury.

https://m.facebook.com/Justice4Cyn/albums/967093260453885/

Other people saw Perry’s stalking too, not email at link above from Cheryl Underwood in fact she saw Perry stalking even when Cynthia was not there. Cynthia told his campaign guy that she didn’t hurt Perry by going to the media with it, she went to him and the response was threats to ruin her business. These conversations took place in 2011 and the dates are on the Facebook messages. What is the difference between Charles Perry and any other podunk small town nobody elected official in a state where Cynthia does not live? She already rapport with other people who were in politics long before Perry jumped in had she worked on any legislative reform in Texas. She worked Federal non partisan government reform all her life, not state. After these texts about stalking, by about a year, she did one issue in NM only on a matter that affected her family and it was not paid work. It was pro bono. Again Perry needs be able to identify which state he legislates in and what his legislative duties are. Those guys in Mannford said “You know how many times I’ve pulled up behind the home of a woman who isn’t my wife and watched her in her back yard? Never because it’s weirdo. You know how many times I’ve gone to a restaurant to spy on a woman who is not my wife or sent my secretary to spy on a woman who isn’t my wife or even my wife? Never because it’s weirdo and not what you do to pass a law in Texas. Perry is not able to identify what his legislative duties are. It’s not stalking. Stalking is a crime in all 50 states and her texts and emails going back to 2011 were about stalking. She said she was scared of him because he threatened her and that she may have to move. That was long before she could have anticipated he’d go into court in 2015 and state under oath that there was a political vendetta having no evidence to support that claim at all. There are no tweets or social media posts directed at Charles Perry about anything political. There are no email arguments and in fact she helped him get elected. Did he lie, imagine something that wasn’t real or he’s just not able to identify what his Legislative Duties are or what state he legislates in. We have asked him to explain that and he’s not responded.

This claim was dismissed with a phone call. She sued for Breach of contract and violations of her first amendment rights to free speech.

US Court Breach
4:18-CV-00159-CVE-FHM NDOK

Again we see no hearing where she is present to present her evidence, witnesses or case, no fair trial, or question Defendants on the stand or cross examine his witnesses. The burden of proof is on her being she is the Plaintiff.

See
Employers Mutual v Bartile Roofs
Holding the Court Where The Injury Occurred Has Jurisduction
And
US v Strohm
US v Vreeland
Holding Perjury Is When
1) There is a duty to disclose a material fact.
2) The Material Fact Is Intentionally Concealed From The Decision Making Body
3) The Material Fact Could Change The OutCome Had The Material Fact Not Been Intentionally Concealed From The Decision Making Body
and
Marler v Kloehr
Holding you must file a police report when seeking a Protective Order Against A Stalker
And
Curry v Streater
Establishing Stalking Is A Pattern Of Harassment and Off Duty Out Of Jurisdiction Law Enforcement Does Not Get Qualified Immunity
And
Sunderland v Zimmerman
Holding A Hearing Must Be Held in 14 Days And Discovery Must Be Granted Under The Oklahoma Discovery Act
And

PATEL v. OMH MEDICAL CENTER,
INC
1999 OK 33 (Okla. 1999) • 987 P.2d 1185
Holding a party has 2 years to seek the Vacating of orders when the order was obtained by fraud. There must be a hearing.

By law you must file a police report to get a stalking protective order, see Marler v Kloehr, and there must be a hearing within 14 days of the initial petition. The request was made in the CJ-2018-02775 case and no hearing was held. Also in a 12-1031, Motion To Vacate on Fraud, a hearing is required, see Patel v OMH, and again no hearing. A hearing should have been held in Officer Nealey’s trial to determine standing on the Motions to Intervene and again, no hearing. This is Perry’s habit and it is being used to build the criminal case against him. This man is so delusional that he asks who told on him but denies there being a case against him. There is a disconnect in his head because if you have to ask who told and deny there is someone to tell, you have no grasp on reality and the disconnect occurs when you ask ‘who told?’ and never connect why that is, who are they telling, and what all that means. Since the McNamara Email of 2015, Cynthia has documented Perry’s threats of death, false arrest and economic loss. If you are being threatened like that, you need a Protective Order. Since the McNamara Email of 2015, Cynthia has documented Perry’s threats of death, false arrest and economic loss. If you are being threatened like that, you need a Protective Order. In Oklahoma, if you petition the court for a Protective Order, the law requires you file a police report held in Marler v Kloehr.

Perry did the same in Officer Mike Nealey’s murder trial. She was deposed but not allowed to testify. She then filed 2 Motions to Intervene. There should have been a hearing to determine standing. Oddly again we have another court proceeding where is a legally required hearing and no hearing happened. That again is concealment of Material facts, intentionally, that would likely change the outcome of the deciding body had the fact not been concealed. Perry thinks that’s a “win”. We will use it in his criminal case. It’s simply more crime.

Again this is a repeat, the more Charles Perry invades Cynthia’s privacy, contacts her or her family, causes hardship and loss, the easier it is to get information ahead of time when he’s planning a harm, injury, loss or crime against her. He’s upsetting all the wrong people when he does that. He seems to not be able to put it together in his head that there is a cause and effect here. You touch a hot stove, you burn your hand. Cause and effect. You harm and pose a threat to Cynthia or bother her or victimize her, you piss off all the wrong people and you get caught because you are upsetting everyone. Nobody likes to watch one person hurt another. All he was asked to do is leave her alone. Our guys would have nothing to do if he’d get out of her life and leave her alone. His hand is practically falling off his arm and he goes right back at the stove when he gets burned. We don’t know what it is he thinks he’s proving doing that. Doesn’t even make sense. He does it every day. His own guy said, “The more he pesters her, and takes her money, things don’t go well for us. We are seeing things happen we have not seen before. We dont know who these guys are. ” He gets caught because he’s upsetting everyone.

Hacking is a crime, not a date and it’s a turn off for women:

Stalking is a crime, not a date. It’s a turn off for women. Terrorization is not in any romantic. It’s hideous.

Peeping is a turn off to women and a sex crime, not a date.

Not a day goes by that Charles Perry does not threaten Cynthia Ortiz with death, false arrest, income or property loss. He’s carried out quite a few of those threats. His threats are specific, malicious, intended to harass and Coerce and intimidate. All these threats are documented by police investigating Mr. Perry on a “need to know” case for sexual exploitation of women and children. The allegations are sexual exploitation but not limited to that. The allegations are that he is stalking, peeping, hacking, coercing, he has a history of destroying evidence, witness tampering, bribery, and causing substantial economic loss to his victims. This Facebook and this blog

Document much of what police have collected as to evidence, some of which is intended to protect Cynthia and to establish malicious aforethought and means rea. He will get caught planning a crime and go at it from a different angle. He threatens and harasses and violates Cynthia every day. Cynthia and these officers are the first to get as much inside information on Perry’s criminal businesses as they have. No one else has collected this much. They have done more to stop his crime than anyone else ever has before. For that reason he’s obsessed with her ruin. He vigorously pursues ruining her every day.

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Charles Perry Looking for Incriminating Recordings

Charles Perry Stalker Podcast 5/26/22

Perry Looking To Buy Incriminating Recordings And Ramped Up Harassment Of Cynthia 5/26/22

Perry’s use of technology to stalk:

Stalking, hacking, peeping, fraud, perjury, coercion and tampering are all criminal acts, not a date or a way to get women to like you.

Perry is so deep in delusion he thinks doing what he was already caught planning, when we talk about it because we know, nobody will suspect a thing.

“When he pesters her and takes her money, things don’t go well for us. We are seeing things happen we have not seen before. ” So Perry does it more, despite getting those type of results. 5/22/22

“I’m being pressured to lie.” Cynthia Ortiz 5/15/22

Mr. Perry has been told the following regarding his peeping Tom problem:

1) Cease and Desist Immediately
2) He is being billed $1,000 per day for using Cynthia’s body, property and utilities for his personal entertainment and for profit. That is her fee.
3) He is being billed $2,000 per day for doing the above without her cm sent or permission against her will. That is her fee.

Included herein is an attempt to collect a debt for Perry’s peeping Tom problem without having to pursue Court Remedy either through restitution in his criminal case or civil court if needed. He doesn’t have consent and he’s obtaining a stolen service and an illegal one without Cynthia’s permission. He is to cease and desist immediately and he’s being charged for being entertained and making a profit off of her body, her property, her utilities, with no consent and no compensation. She said No!

He told her for years he intended to intentionally and illegally take her income to “starve her into a lie” and offered her a bribe if she lies. He stated his intent was to make her so desperate and broke she’d have no choice. Her response has always been to refuse illegal conduct and request legally owed funds. She will not change her court testimony and witness tampering and retaliation is prohibited by both state and Federal Law. See Title 18 USC 1512 and 1513.

“Had they done what she said in March,2020 and They Get Officer Nealey Home So there Is No Suspicion On Them, Given Back What They Took From Her And Left Her Alone, If She Continued To Assert That They Killed Chief Miller And Framed Mike, We Would All Say ‘Shes Wrong, If Not A Little Bit Crazy. But They Didn’t So We Know They Killed Chief Miller And Framed Mike. Here We Have Yet Another Court Where She Is Not Allowed To Testify, Illegal Activity And Impropriety Same As Her Civil Suits And We Can All See Officer Nealey Could Not Have Committed That Murder. She’s Being Starved Into A Lie. That Means She’s Telling The Truth. They Killed Chief Miller. Had They Dine What She Said In 2020 The Speculation And Suspicion On Them Bow Would Not Be There And Perry Would Be Free To Campaign Without Coercing Her Through Starvation, Homelessness, False Arrest To Make Her Lie. We Would Not Believe Her Had He Not Done Exactly What She Said. ” Reporter

Perry arranged a second false arrest, had a plea agreement already in place that included an apology letter he prepared for Cynthia to sign. she’d be under duress, obviously, and those would be his words, not her words.

She was supposed to be in jail and not able to appeal.” They intentionally impeded the appeal and many of those conversations obtained by the police helping her.

Perry has demanded Cynthia leave her home and go back to Texas and lie for him. He’s given her an ultimatum: Be homeless and broke or lie for me.

This is a Verbal Cease and Desist Demand to all parties named herein. Use allegedly. Apply the “but for” and “reasonable prudent individual” standard. We assert all Constitutional Rights, including but not limited to, 1st Amendment right to free speech, held in NYT Co. v Sullivan and Garrison v Louisiana. We assert the 14th Amendment right to equal protection. Cynthia and everyone with her is not to be held to a different standard than everyone else and she is entitled to protection of the laws including but not limited to Title 18 USC 1512 and 1513 and all domestic violence laws, anti stalking laws, anti hacking laws, and anti voyeurism laws and all laws protecting women against violence. Gender discrimination is as repulsive as racism and not tolerated in this Country.

You Tube Page And Video Shown By National Stalking Resource Center

The Use Of Technology To Stalk

Connecting The Dots Training For law Enforcement on Protocol For Stalking Reports

Security Guy Radio on Delusional Erotomania

Copyright Shown On Video

See Employers Mutual v Bartile Roofs
US v Strohm
US v Vreeland
Marler v Kloehr
Curry v Streater
Sunderland v Zimmerman
Patel v OMH

If someone is threatening you every day with death and false arrest as Perry has done and Cynthia has documented starting with the McNamara Email f 2015, you need a Protective Order.

The recording of Pinto referred to in today’s podcast can be heard here

Perry is the same as TikTok Stalker Neil and causes the same anger and fear as he did to TikTok Stalking Victim Loreboree. Stalking is a domestic violence crime in all 50 states. Violent subjugation of a woman who doesn’t like some weird dude is a crime in all 50 states.

https://www.unilad.co.uk/viral/woman-who-caught-her-stalker-on-film-claims-police-didnt-take-her-seriously/

6 times she asked to be left alone. He comments on her clothes which he was not asked his opinion. He was asked to leave her alone.

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdhgjjYS/

When a woman asks to be left alone, leave her the fuck alone:

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdhg6YVQ/

This is what it’s like to have to live with a maniac forcing himself on you and Perry is much worse that this guy:

https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdhg9HNY/

It’s like being raped everyday

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdx62C2k/

Perry threatens to “get” Cynthia and goes at her family just as Neal does here. He also claims to have photos of her as does Neal. Stalkers are the same.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdsuAQ4j/?k=1

Victims are re-traumatuzed every single day.

The National Stalker Resource Center provides training for law enforcement, judges, prosecutors and victims. This video trains on older stalkers and the use of technology to stalk being used more often than not particularly when the older stalker has the means to afford technology as Mr. Perry does:

Proper Police Protocol in Taking Stalking Reports Or Reports Of Crimes Believed To Be Stalking Related At Link Below:

See NRSC The Use Of Technology To Stalk Here:

Perry hired guys too:

Dr. Russell discusses his stalking escalations being so catastrophic Cynthia is not able to just ignore him. If you are trying to get work done on a computer or cell phone and he’s jamming it up or typing over your typing that would be difficult to ignore. He pokes at her all day abd provokes our guys so they do get more of what goes on in his secret little meetings where he plans a catastrophic loss. As many times as she’s said “I’m not told who informants are. I don’t even know which of the 40 to inform to, or how. Wouldn’t help you if I did because I want for you to be gone. ” He still asks every day. That does mean there is something to leak and when he does what we say we got information on after we say it, he proves out the recording and we have another “I told you so.”

Special Page For Videos and Podcasts Perry Blocked From Posting Forcing Alternative Methods At Link Below:

The evidence has built up over time and is chapter and versed at links below. Perry wasn’t getting caught until he went at Cynthia. When he bothers Cynthia, he gets caught and he’s been caught more than ever in his life. If you are watching all this as it unfolds, you will notice we have to repeat ourselves a lot. Count how many times Lo had to tell her stalker to leave her alone. It’s like things don’t click for these stalker types like they do everyone else. Perry gets caught, gets mad about it and wants to know who told but goes right back at it.

And here:

And here:

Case overview with inclusion of NRSC training videos

We assert all Constitutional Rights including but not limited to the First Amendment, held in NYT Co. V Sullivan and Garrison v Louisiana. We assert the 14th Amendment Right to Equal Protection under the laws including but not limited to laws protecting women against voyeurism, hacking, stalking violence, economic abuse, murder, coercion, and rape. We assert the right to equal protection provided in Title 18 USC 1512 and 1513, domestic violence laws, anti stalking laws and all laws intended to protect victims of crime. Misogyny and gender discrimination are as bad as racism.

CJ-2018-02775 Tulsa County Ok State Court Malicious Prosecution And Seeking Domestic Violence Stalking Protective Order. Perry never allowed a fair hearing or trial where Cynthia was in Court to show evidence, put witnesses on the stand or cross Perry’s or examine him and his co-defendants on the stand. He intentionally impeded appeals. She was intentionally kept from Court, in line with Perry’s habit of concealment, and the burden of proof is on her, the Plaintiff. Same is the case in

US Federal
4:17-00489-JHP-JFJ. NDOK
5:18-CV-00137-C NDTX

Both the case in ND TX and the state case Perry did exactly what is described in the harassment emails dating back to 11/2017. “Send her home, harass the hell out of her then claim she’s harassing us when she tells on us. ” He did do exactly that twice. He did it long after those emails were sent. Emails can be seen here:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1342860946210446&id=100014596601592

Her communications to friends were about stalking, not politics therefore our Shrink believes he, Mr. Powell and Mr. Burson are not able to identify Perry’s Legislative Duties, which state he legislates in or metaphors, analogies and sarcasm. Their actions indicate they are simply unable to identify those simple facts. These communications were 5 years before she could have anticipated they’d be unable to perform an easy function while under oath and penalty of perjury.

Click here to see texts and emails with friends going back to 2011. They talked about stalking not a political vendetta.

Other people saw Perry’s stalking too, not email at link above from Cheryl Underwood in fact she saw Perry stalking even when Cynthia was not there. Cynthia told his campaign guy that she didn’t hurt Perry by going to the media with it, she went to him and the response was threats to ruin her business. These conversations took place in 2011 and the dates are on the Facebook messages.

This claim was dismissed with a phone call. She sued for Breach of contract and violations of her first amendment rights to free speech.

US Court Breach
4:18-CV-00159-CVE-FHM NDOK

Again we see no hearing where she is present to present her evidence, witnesses or case, no fair trial, or question Defendants on the stand or cross examine his witnesses. The burden of proof is on her being she is the Plaintiff.

See
Employers Mutual v Bartile Roofs
Holding the Court Where The Injury Occurred Has Jurisduction
And
US v Strohm
US v Vreeland
Holding Perjury Is When
1) There is a duty to disclose a material fact.
2) The Material Fact Is Intentionally Concealed From The Decision Making Body
3) The Material Fact Could Change The OutCome Had The Material Fact Not Been Intentionally Concealed From The Decision Making Body
and
Marler v Kloehr
Holding you must file a police report when seeking a Protective Order Against A Stalker
And
Curry v Streater
Establishing Stalking Is A Pattern Of Harassment and Off Duty Out Of Jurisdiction Law Enforcement Does Not Get Qualified Immunity
And
Sunderland v Zimmerman
Holding A Hearing Must Be Held in 14 Days And Discovery Must Be Granted Under The Oklahoma Discovery Act
And

PATEL v. OMH MEDICAL CENTER,
INC
1999 OK 33 (Okla. 1999) • 987 P.2d 1185
Holding a party has 2 years to seek the Vacating of orders when the order was obtained by fraud. There must be a hearing.

By law you must file a police report to get a stalking protective order, see Marler v Kloehr, and there must be a hearing within 14 days of the initial petition. The request was made in the CJ-2018-02775 case and no hearing was held. Also in a 12-1031, Motion To Vacate on Fraud, a hearing is required, see Patel v OMH, and again no hearing. A hearing should have been held in Officer Nealey’s trial to determine standing on the Motions to Intervene and again, no hearing. This is Perry’s habit and it is being used to build the criminal case against him. This man is so delusional that he asks who told on him but denies there being a case against him. There is a disconnect in his head because if you have to ask who told and deny there is someone to tell, you have no grasp on reality and the disconnect occurs when you ask ‘who told?’ and never connect why that is, who are they telling, and what all that means. Since the McNamara Email of 2015, Cynthia has documented Perry’s threats of death, false arrest and economic loss. If you are being threatened like that, you need a Protective Order. Since the McNamara Email of 2015, Cynthia has documented Perry’s threats of death, false arrest and economic loss. If you are being threatened like that, you need a Protective Order. In Oklahoma, if you petition the court for a Protective Order, the law requires you file a police report held in Marler v Kloehr.

Perry did the same in Officer Mike Nealey’s murder trial. She was deposed but not allowed to testify. She then filed 2 Motions to Intervene. There should have been a hearing to determine standing. Oddly again we have another court proceeding where is a legally required hearing and no hearing happened. That again is concealment of Material facts, intentionally, that would likely change the outcome of the deciding body had the fact not been concealed. Perry thinks that’s a “win”. We will use it in his criminal case. It’s simply more crime.

Again this is a repeat, the more Charles Perry invades Cynthia’s privacy, contacts her or her family, causes hardship and loss, the easier it is to get information ahead of time when he’s planning a harm, injury, loss or crime against her. He’s upsetting all the wrong people when he does that. He seems to not be able to put it together in his head that there is a cause and effect here. You touch a hot stove, you burn your hand. Cause and effect. You harm and pose a threat to Cynthia or bother her or victimize her, you piss off all the wrong people and you get caught because you are upsetting everyone. Nobody likes to watch one person hurt another. All he was asked to do is leave her alone. Our guys would have nothing to do if he’d get out of her life and leave her alone. His hand is practically falling off his arm and he goes right back at the stove when he gets burned. We don’t know what it is he thinks he’s proving doing that. Doesn’t even make sense. He does it every day. His own guy said, “The more he pesters her, and takes her money, things don’t go well for us. We are seeing things happen we have not seen before. We dont know who these guys are. ” He gets caught because he’s upsetting everyone.

Hacking is a crime, not a date and it’s a turn off for women:

Stalking is a crime, not a date. It’s a turn off for women. Terrorization is not in any romantic. It’s hideous.

Peeping is a turn off to women and a sex crime, not a date.

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“Perry Wanted Mannford PD To Make The Second False Arrest Because She Respects Them”

“She was supposed to be in jail and not able to appeal.”

Duress, stress, anxiety, fear, hardship, icked and slimed all over is not what people like to be forced to deal with every day.

Criminology Theories explain criminal behavior as being the result of low self control and a low IQ. Click here for more.

Perry has continued to attempt violent and economic subjugation the same as outlined in The 10/29/2015 Email to her ex husband now called “The McNamara Email” just varying his approach. He threatens death or false arrest again daily abd has since he carried out the first one. Charges were dismissed in her favor as there was never a crime. She filed a police report in compliance with Oklahoma law when seeking a protective order. A week later before there was an investigation, evidence had not yet been collected by TPD, no call back even made until February 15, 2016, the report filed with a desk clerk on January 21, 2016, her false arrest on January 29, 2016 for “Filing a false police report in retaliation for a public servant doing his job as a senator, she was arrested. Just was obstructed, she was by physical force, prevented and delayed from reporting her crime to police, her evidence was destroyed. These are violations of Title 18 USC 1512 and 1513. Powell made no effort to preserve the video evidence, texts or blood and hair to rule out attempted foul play and stalking abd harassment. She preserved texts. The rest was out of her hands being she was in jail while they made sure the video evidence was destroyed and the poison Perry had given her worked it’s way out of her system. Had he not poisoned her he would have made sure she was tested to prove she lied. Instead he made sure there was no test. He’s threatened a second false arrest and death daily ever since.

Click here to see her Millionth request that he cease and desist all contact and leave her alone.

Click here to see “Charles Perry’s Rape Culture and Catrillionth Time He Has Been Asked To Leave Her Alone

Click here to see info on Perry’s habit and pattern of poisoning, obstruction of justice, perjury, destruction of evidence, witness and victim tampering, and illegal detention of witnesses and victims.

Click here to see one of many verbal legal demands from Cynthia Ortiz asking Charles Perry to leave her alone. One time is all you should have to make that request. She moved twice to get away from Perry abd to avoid all contact with him and a conflict. He will not just leave her alone. He is breaking the law.

Police recordings:
Police recording #1 “Charles Perry told Cynthia Ortiz she is to leave the state. Can you believe that? Her family is in Oklahoma and that’s where she went to get away from him and he’s telling her that. They apparently got ahold of her mail and cut up a credit card. He’s taking her money. Why in the hell is he telling her to leave the state. That’s none of his business. He goes into Court says the Court has no jurisdiction and he has no business in the state so what’s he in Oklahoma doing all that for if that was true? They had her in therapy for a years a half and there was never a crime and they knew it. She’s right. They never intended to prosecute and preserved no evidence. She didn’t need therapy until they did that to her. If she needed therapy ever it was because they did that to her and it traumatized her but before that there was no crime and not only that they had her tested for compency to stand trial and she’s got a 3.9 GPA. I’ll tell you what these comments about ‘What would work for you, incarceration or helping you run into a door’s I’d feel the same way if they put me through everything they put her through. There a person or two I’d like to help run into a door and they have not done half, not even half to me what Perry has done to Cynthia so I can imagine she would feel like that but it sounds like her question is actually the same thing she asked her doctor. What do I do to get this guy off me? Basically is what she’s saying. So this is bullshit what he’s doing here and but for stalking where she lives doesn’t concern him in the least. I can’t believe he had the nerve to tell her to leave the state. Moron. “

Police recording #2
“They claimed she was trying to blackmail them and that’s not at all what she’s doing. The emails she sent he referred to in his brief were about those recordings. He’s alleging she is just harassing him. She’s letting them know somebody has those recordings because I heard no sentence come out if that girls mouth asking for money in exchange for getting rid of those recordings and she’s letting them know that’s what those emails are about and that someone has them but not her is what I got from the point she was trying to make and there was no offer put out there that the recordings won’t be used in a criminal case at some point if they pay her or settle her law suits. It’s a separate deal and I think she’s made that very clear for a very long time. These guys are just hunting and pecking for something and I said ‘You know what I know about it Cynthia Ortiz and what she’s doing on any given day at any given time or her money or people in her life? Not a damn thing. I could not care less, so why do you? Looks like stalking to me and going along with the stalking or part of it is hacking and voyeurism just like she said because you all know way too much about this girl and her life and something is very wrong with that. She’s made it clear she wants no contact at all with any of you. So what in the hell is it you think you are doing?’ They dont understand half the things she says that to me aren’t that hard to understand so I left that pretty pissed off. Looks like these guys are all messed up. You got a group of guys that are just messed up people. So that’s what happened there on that and talking to them will make you pull your hair out that’s for sure. “

Cynthia’s text to her attorney about Perry’s claims of blackmail:

“I think I made it clear since the recordings are not mine it’s not up to me. I said the officer said if they make amends rather than offering me buy a lie money they MIGHT get mercy at sentencing. That’s all. In response to a bribe offer, that’s what I said. I won’t take a bribe and Charles pisses me the fuck off every time he even asks or takes my money thinking he can force me to and he pisses them off too and then they go to work and we get more. Once he’s in jail there wont be any more of this. He’s all about drama.”

Police recording #3
“This guy said they are just hunting and pecking for some way to arrest her again. ” “She’s said that going way back. They had that jewelry scam. Then they had a murder they were trying to frame her on. Then they had the claims if harassment when they go at her abd she talks about it, that’s harassment and they did do that in civil court, then it was doing a lap dance with socks on and she said she danced for 6 years and gave dances to cops and all of them told her as long as her feet were covered she was fine. Well she wore socks so her feet were covered. Then she said she danced all that time and that’s only a problem now that Perry is running for office again and needs a Stormy Daniel type headline and she quit dancing a year ago. They been doing everything they can to make her go back. That’s why. They want a prostitution headline. He wants attention. Now it’s blackmail so he is hunting and pecking but he always has. He wanted that done by Mannford Police because that’s the only one she really respects. They wanted her back out there so they had to do it. They want to impede court appeals and they wanted her car sold for scrap metal and I mean every mean thing they can think up to do to her they try and whoever these guys are that got her that Fabian puzzle and all this stuff keep telling her. Investigating Perry and those are the guys that own all those recordings. If she is not even told who she is listening to, you think she has any control over those recordings at all? She has none. If she doesn’t know who it is, she has no control over those. That’s their call. She was making the point that she heard them. They played them for her. End of story. They need to go campaign and quit messing with her. This all gets out if control everytime Perry messes with her and I think he’s got an addiction to drama like a soap opera. She called him a soap opera queen, like he’s lowered himself to a Jerry Springer episode and he seems to be intent on proving that right. If it were me I’d make myself busy campaigning so she had no fuel left to throw on that fire. He just keeps putting gasoline in this. It’s his own fault. So yeah they wanted Mannford to arrest for whatever they could drum up because she respects them and they don’t like that. Cause a conflict between her Mannford PD like he does with everyone else. Read the McNamara email she talks about all that in that email and nothing has changed. Isolation. That’s part of his domestic violence.”

To clarify, Perry told everyone he wanted Mannford PD to make the second false arrest because Cynthia respects them. That doesn’t mean Mannford PD had been told yet or agreed to it. They worked weeks we hear trying to make that work on the weekend of 12/18/21. The plan was as follows:

1) Get the Judge To Deny Her Motion To Vacate on the 12-1031 Petition To Vacate on Fraud and Irregularities. That was to happen and did happen on 12/17/21. CJ-2018-02775 filed in District Court, State of Oklahoma, County of Tulsa

2) She was going to her family Christmas near Mannford on 12/18/21. They had someone there prepared to take her Driver’s License out of her purse when she’d be outside talking to her cousin about her car and everyone assumed that would happen.

3) Send her into Mannford to the store to get something.

4) They had her money held that was due on the 3rd until after the 18th knowing she’d use that to renew her registration that was due on the 15th. Perry has always somehow gotten a key to every car she’s owned, not legally. He has no legal rights to do that. It’s not his car. He had that key used to take out 2 of 4 tail lights and he did the same to her in Mannford. She was called and woken up and told to check her lights immediately. She did. One was out. Her receipt from Napa is on the Facebook page so she wasn’t pulled over so this is a habit for him and stalking and harassment. This is part of what makes his claims resulting in lawsuit dismissals, making she’s not there to show evidence that he’s committing perjury, fraud and perjury. These constitute injury in the forum state. He claims he isn’t making contacts in the forum state but again makes sure she’s not there to show evidence that he is. That’s concealment and again his habit of perjury. The tail lights and car registration being a few days over due was supposed to get Mannford PD to pull her over and she’d look to get her license and it wouldn’t be there.

5) She Respects Mannford PD so Perry was desperate for that to be who did that to her for him and that is in part due to her Sherlock of Mike Nealey’s case again not something he’d care anything about if she were wrong abd he didn’t do that murder. He wouldn’t care. He only does this crap because he has a lot to hide. You don’t coerce and tamper with a witness who doesn’t know anything. Lots of Racketeering and fraud with these people and not just one count but many.

6) Because they took her money or held it up, she didn’t have gas money to go. She told her cop friends who have been investigating Perry that she could do a few Uber Eat runs and make enough to get out there. By that time they had enough information to advise her to chill at home and not go due to Perry’s intent to use Mannford Police to hurt her for him.

7) Since that went bust, they staked out Good Deal all week wanting her to go there. She has no reason to go to Good Deal so nobody really understands that one.

8) Her car registration was renewed and her Driver’s License is thankfully safe and sound with her. Duly noted their nefarious intent, however. She’s filed a Notice of Appeal and has until the 16th to file a Petition in the Oklahoma Supreme Court. It is also their habit to try to fund ways to impede these proceedings so the stake out is on that and any illegal calls to that court.

Perry continues to ask who told, believe it or not, like in his delusion Cynthia would tell him that. Why would she tell him that? She has help. If not for them, he would have pulled off some devastating ruin to her. It has though now twice backfired on them when they get into her wallet and mess with her money. Both times when they did that, it messed up their other plans.

Police recording #4: 


“What happened with her car? I thought that was supposed to be taken from her or what was going on with that? Did she not get pulled over? Wasn’t she supposed to have been pulled over?”
“She was. She said those guys recorded Dave talking to her school asking them to hold up her money so she couldn’t get it registered. They did. She said her people told her there would be a hold up because she changed programs but not as long as David and Charles wanted. They did hold it up longer than it should have been. What was supposed to happen is it was due renewal on the 15th of December. They wanted her claims in state court denied on the 17th, her to go out to Mannford to her family’s home on the 18th for christmas, they had her tail lights taken out, she was to be pulled over and arrested. They had someone at her cousin’s house ready to get her driver’s license out of her purse. They knew she’d probably take Craig outside and ask him about her car. About fixing that car. While she’s out with Craig, they had someone there at the house, one of their friends, ready to take her license out of her purse while she was inside so they all that planned. Well, because they took her money, she couldn’t afford to gas to go out there. She said she could have made some with this Uber Eats deal but they told her not to. They found out and told her chill at home. Don’t go anywhere. Then they thought she’d go over to Mo’s, they had that staked out all week waiting for her, she didn’t go. Her registration is renewed and she does have two tail lights, one on each side, but she got that registration renewed which was the whole reason they wanted her pulled over. Tail lights out and expired registration. Then she wouldn’t have her license on her and not realize it until after she was pulled over. They found out and the whole thing went bust twice. So, now if we keep going at her that way, we got another situation like the ringtone. How many recordings are there of the same thing. She’s made a big deal out of it being Mannford in particular they wanted to arrest her. She respects Mannford, she took Mike’s situation to heart, and Chief Ridley treated her right so they wanted to ruin that making Mannford be the ones to do this second false arrest and she found out about it and jumped all over these guys in her podcast. She did say they don’t know if Mannford had been told or not, and whether or not they had agreed to this, but that Perry and Roberson and that group were recorded discussing this second false arrest and the importance of it being Mannford that does that arrest because they want division between her, Ridley, and Mike. They know they’ve been harrassing Mike. They know. “
“Uh oh, how do they know.” “Same as everything else. We don’t know.” “What’s next?””Not sure yet.” “Let me know when you know. Perry has got to stop messing with her. “
“We know that. He won’t stop.””Well, he’s gonna have to.”
“He won’t. I’m telling you everyone has told him back of on tormenting her all day. He won’t.” 
“Figure out something.” “Okay.” 12/30/21

Police Recording #5

Police recording “We had Good Deal Staked out for a week after that deal in Mannford fell through waiting for her to go there and she never showed up. ” “How many languages does she speak?” “I don’t know. ” “Is the Use Government or foreign?” “We don’t know. Probably both”. “which ones are foreign?” “Don’t know. ” “When is she going to Good Deal ” “She may not now. They may have been staking us out while they staked her out. She’s not doing anything wrong. Josh Burson Powell and Perry are trying to to make it sound like she is. It’s them not her so whoever is investigating them is all over that so these deal everybody sets up fall apart because they always find out. ” “US and foreign ?” “Likely both is what I’m I’m saying. Not likely she’s going to Good Deal any time soon since they keep pushing her. They got into her mail and took her credit card and that made these guys mad. Perry jams up her computers and her phone so she can’t get anything done and that makes them mad. He gets into her money and that makes them mad and all she wants is to be left alone and Perry plans all these false arrests and that if course makes them mad or they want to take her car and that makes them mad so all that is instigated by Perry and these other guys have her back. Always have. ” “Ok I see. What are we gonna do?” “I don’t know. ” 12/31/21

Police recording #6

Police recording “She caught them on trying to frame her for that murder too because she’s got emails about them being recorded same as everything else framing her back to 2017 and maybe even before that. He tells Fabian he is gonna find a way to lock her up again and she won’t get out this time unless she’s with me. You need to give up. Then she’s got these texts from Mickey James where he is wanting to take her shooting most likely so he can get her prints and stuff on that gun. Zio’s texts when they wanted her to go to Zio’s so they could plant that gun in her trunk and then she knew to go look in the trunk and took pictures of it. Mikey told her he was retired DEA and now a firearms instructor and asked her if she wanted to go shooting right out of the gate. She knew at that point to then ask more questions about who he knew in law enforcement since he told her he trains law enforcement and he knew nobody so she knew then Perry sent him and why. So you got a whole lot of evidence already of a frame up. These guys helping her likely have a recording of all that at least planting the gun in the trunk so knew to go look. She’s not gonna go look unless they played that for her and told her go take pictures and go look. So they got caught again. “

Documents here:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1256257601537448&id=100014596601592

It’s the same harassment, just a different method. Causes the same constant panick. Everyone is sick and tired of the imposition. The more Perry peeps and creeps and hacks and makes any kind of contact with Cynthia at all, the more hardship and drama he causes the more he gets told on. He’s slow. He can’t put that “cause and effect” together in his head. It’s been 8 years. He ought to put it together by now, one would think.

Perry is the same as TikTok Stalker Neil and causes the same anger and fear as he did to TikTok Stalking Victim Loreboree. Stalking is a domestic violence crime in all 50 states. Violent subjugation of a woman who doesn’t like some weird dude. LEAVE HER ALONE! NO MEANS NO!!! Notice she points out the man said “I dont care what you want. I’m going to impose on you anyways” like antisocial disorder people do? When you reject someone and they ignore your wishes and make you feel raped and burden other people with a sense of entitlement, that’s a problem for them. That’s disease. Normal people don’t act like that. Dignitaries sure as shit don’t act like that. Get a life already.

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Police Recording of 1/29/22

“She’s not gotten anything to her attorney but the problem is we can’t say that we know that and just because she hasn’t doesn’t mean anything. Sometimes they hold things close to the vest. Other problem we have is the McNamara Email is still in play. Perry is just varying the details. The Harassment is a problem. They have him telling people he wanted her arrested and in jail so she can’t appeal civil claims and he kept her out of all hearings and she does have evidence and a lot if it. The other problem is these Bond Conditions that indicate he admitted to stalking her and agreed to stop. All these threats before that first arrest and no blood test and no review of the video from the night in question with a detective. There is no political vendetta that anyone can find evidence of and no motive for her to give two craps about his political career. Then there is the problem with her testimony for Mike Nealey being excluded, she said Perry threatened her about that  then it’s excluded and again she’s kept out of court and no hearings on her Motion to Intervene and she did say before it was in discovery that he was drugged and there is not a mark on him. So you have all that to overcome. It looks like retaliation. That’s all there is to it and I don’t know what they were thinking when they did all that. He wants to announce candidacy and said he can’t until she’s in jail and then he thinks after that he can win. No way if she’s not in jail. So he’s got some problems with his head. You dont do that. He thinks he can do that abd he might do that but it’s gonna make some people more mad than they already are. So we can’t say we know what she’s told her attorney and the way information goes around I dont know that they she didn’t tell them and they just did it a different way this time. They have ways to get information back and forth to people nobody can see or figure out how that works. This Harassment email is a part of that so Charles is just giving her another I told you so? I mean what does he think he’s doing here? I don’t know what he thinks he’s doing. His position is not that influential and I don’t see how this is worth all this. I’m not seeing it and he gets caught and seems not really understand that he’s caught which is a whole other problem. I’m at a loss.” 

The evidence has built up over time and is chapter and versed at links below. Perry wasn’t getting caught until he went at Cynthia. The second he went at her, we get all this, chapter and versed at links below.

And here:

And here:

Click here to see more details on Perry’s intended plan to have Mannford Police arrest her on 12/18/21 on his second false arrest.

Subsequent recordings:

More police recording: 
“The Texas Ranger worked on that deal for weeks. They came up and showed everybody how to turn their phone recorders on without her seeing it, gae them all scripts as to what to get her talking about. They wanted her talking about Mike Nealey’s case abd what all she knew and maybe she talks about who these guys are helping her abd who is posting what about all that online. They had Braeden and them planning on getting her license out if her purse when she went out to talk to Craig about her car. They wanted her to run into town to get something at The Jiffy Trip and she was to be pulled over for no lights, no registration and no drivers license and arrested. All those harrassment claims Perry makes when he gets caught instigating and agitating her, they dud that in civil court twice after she sent that email about them planning that. He did it again in the most recent state court case, they had that judge deny it, she was to go out there the following day after they spent weeks planning that right there in the hub of where everybody is she trusts. That’s what that McNamara email says. He wants to isolate her. He has tried to do that to her for years. Cyndi has help and Perry cannot seem to get that through his head and she does not like him abd he can’t get that either. He wants to do that to her again thinking nobody would realize what he was doing. It’s illegal. As it turns out she’s got four lights on the back of her car, 2 on each side. They only knocked out one. She has an up to date tag. It was due renewal on 12/15. She has it renewed now but Roberson and Perry called her school and told them to hold up her money so before this deal on the 18th she wouldn’t have the money to renew it. The got in her wallet so deep no gas money to go out there and that whole thing was a bust. Didn’t happen. Now she knows. I think she did before because had she worked a couple of hours doing her Uber Eats thing she could have made enough at least to get out there but they told her not to so they already knew what Perry was up to. They do all the time. He cannot seem to understand that. She said his attorney confirmed receipt of 3700 emails telling him his client was recorded planning a crime against her, Phillip has 3 times that and they have 10 times that. She said that for him to put that on the docket helps them in that he’s confirmed receipt and they can now use that to show he is carrying out the harassment email, now twice and they planned that while she was in jail for the first false arrest they were already planning a second and during that time Justice Scalia died in West Texas and that DC murder cop questioned procedure not being followed. Well that’s Texas Rangers. They are the ones front and center right now. How long have they covered up Perry’s misdeeds? They kill Lucky? I mean now this? You know, this is a problem. It’s not just Perry and Powell and them, now’s it’s the Rangers retaliating against what might be a Federal witness so they are drawing attention from that maybe. I’m concerned they are provoking something they are gonna wish they hadn’t provoked. She has every right to come out in defense of Mike Nealey. They can not punish her or retaliate against her for doing that and right now he has an appeal. She could be called there on that. They cannot get in her face about it or try to intimidate her and they are. All of them are and that implicates them and she has said that and Perry again is not understanding that. You can explain it to him and he seems not to understand it. So you deal with that. Crunch time and we keep getting told on . Perry won’t get off of her long enough to back them off of us. I can’t get him to understand. He’s not understanding what we are trying to explain so I can see her frustration on that. ” 

Her email to Wischkeamper

“He said the Texas Rangers in Perry’s pocket worked weeks putting all that together on 12/18/21. There are some that believe since Mike Nealey and Chief Miller were at a police conference some of them were involved in that murder because they have covered up Perry’s alleged crimes for years and Lucky Miller was not going along with it. We all know a drugged unconscious guy cant beat a guy to death with one hand and end up with no injuries but a red swollen right hand which was more likely red and swollen due to an IV needle being in it. He’d have a lot worse injuries than that had he beat someone to death. They wouldn’t let me testify and one reporter told our guys “If we had any doubts before that you guys were wrong about Mike Nealey not being guilty, we don’t now. She ranted for a year about Perry harassing her, starving her by making sure she had no work and no income and threatened her all the time and she said they won’t let me testify. They dud exactly what she said and the removed any doubts at all from our minds as to who did that murder abd it was not Mike Nealey. Had the jury heard her and still come up with a guilty verdict that would be different but they made sure the jury did not hear what she had to say. It’s sad day when a police officer has to go through something like that for trying to do the right and serve a protect a citizen, a woman, from domestic violence. I was appalled. ” 
We were too. Perry does something to me every single day. I never cry. It’s like routine now. I collect all the evidence I can and focus on what’s next in the process. Over Mike Nealey’s verdict, I cried and I cried a lot for a week. It upsets me like nothing else. It’s heavy for his family and Chief Miller’s family deserves the honors of him being killed in the line of duty not a drunken brawl. There was no drunken brawl. If you lose your dad, that’s bad enough but having that legacy ripped away too, is pathetic. There was a huge huge sacrifice made for that legacy. He was robbed of it. That’s not okay. Because of my stand I’ve taken on this I have been attacked viciously, threatened, coerced, and they wanted Mannford PD to do the second false arrest knowing they had my respect and they wanted that injured too. Perry wanted that injured with everything else he injures. 
Perry needs to have people start asking what he does with his time. He’s not working. If you are working you dint have the time to sit around bothering people in another state and then need a cover up so much you kill a cop. Then you need that covered up too. He needs to stay in Lubbock and be seen out with his family and with constituents and anything but bothering me and my family. We are sick and tired of him. It’s not hard to get information that protects me and will at some point be used to get a conviction because everyone has had enough of his crap icked all over us in Oklahoma. He’s not getting that. “

Click here to hear Cynthia’s podcast on related issues here.

Click here to hear the nutty of a stalker and the frustration of the victims they torment.

2022 Begins with more Perry Soap Opera Drama How Lovely

Updates January 1, 2022: Perry Recording Indicates He’s Going At The Murder Frame Up Angle Again

Still working that variation of The McNamara Email Perry tries the murder frame up angle again.

Police recording “I’ve got to get her shoe print and I’ve got to get her height with the shoe on or I can’t make this work. To be honest with you I don’t think Cynthia did this. She keeps to herself too much to angry at anyone enough to kill and those guys helping her would have done something. They wouldn’t help her. I think Charles did it just to frame her. He obsesses about putting her back in jail and I don’t know that we could get around that. He’s been recorded so much talking about all that I don’t know how we’d get around all that. She doesn’t interact with people much because of what he’s doing to her. Very little so I don’t see her having any interaction where she’d get close enough to anyone to get angry enough to kill and I dont think she even knows this person. I think he picked somebody he thought she might be mad at or something and just framed her, just to frame her. That first false arrest and everything after that he messed up so bad they can’t afford for this one to be messed up. I need it to be exact or it’s not gonna work. So we really needed her back at that club so I could get her shoe print and her height with those shoes on and the only we could get that was to get her back on that pole. Perry ran her money off so she quit going out there and these shoes are a very common shoe. Everybody has one. It’s Walmart. So its very common. Millions of people have that same shoe. He obsesses about finding a way to lock her up again so I don’t know how to get around all that and her lack of interacting with people because of what he’s doing to her enough to get angry enough to kill someone and for sure not him. She’s got a motive to kill him and not a hair on his head is harmed so if she’s not killing him it’s not likely she’d kill anyone wise but he wants us to try anyways. Frame her on this and I don’t think it’s gonna work. She just didn’t do it. Ever since she helped Mike he’s really going at her. She wasn’t supposed to figure that one out and she did so if we mess this up she’ll do the same thing. She will find the mistake. We can’t make one. ” Yeah I don’t kill people. Not my thing. That’s Charles thing. Lying in Court is too. We proved that.

If she killed someone, the police helping her would throw her ass in jail themselves and they watch absolutely every move she makes and have for years. She’s known them a lot longer than she’s known Perry and they sure as shit wouldn’t help her had she killed someone. Perry has gone at her hard and he has everyone HIGHLY pissed off at him right now for many reasons so we get these easier by the day. But with this recording and some others on this matter, we establish premeditation and Mens Rea, malicious intent to cause an injury to a victim and a witness of Perry’s crime. Racketeering. “Yippee Ki yay. Dragon slaying going on today”, Cynthia says.

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Always something with that guy. Imagine living under that kind of threat and pressure every day. Perry is a monster. He’s got everyone extremely upset with him right now. What does he tell Jacquelyn he’s doing when he’s sitting around causing drama in Oklahoma bothering a woman who doesn’t like him?

After they got caught on the Mannford deal, they still tried to impound Cynthia’s car and do parts of what they were already caught on even after they were caught planning it and that’s not the first time they have done that. Click here for more.

And even more here

January 5, 2022 Updates:

Part One of the issues in emails are posted here at link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1261404187689456&id=100014596601592

Police recording “You have to prove a couple of things. Who is posting what. Is it just her or does she have other people posting too and which ones are protected speech because as it stands right now what this looks like is he’s doing stuff to her and it’s no different than what he did the first time. He just will not leave her alone. She did move twice and didn’t say anything to people in Lubbock about the problem she’s got going to her friends that dint live in Lubbock. She completely changed everything in her life to get away from this guy. It took two moves and then she said something. Cheryl saw him stalking too like he  does now himself and through proxy. So he’s just still doing it but has escalated. You got the harassment email then he did exactly what it says in civil court and now may be wanting to take her computer right out of her home to keep her from appealing what appears to me to an illegally obtained order not once but twice. How come you have one lady with no law school against 5 attorneys and not one hearing where she’s there? Not with Perry and Powell and that’s the main crux of the problem. When he’s in court she’s never there to say all the things she’s able to say in these podcasts where she goes through documents and explains everything. Why is that? This had gone on now in 3 civil Suits where she bears the burden of proof. All these documents are all sitting on the docket. She explains them where everything fits together very well and you can see clearly she’s injured and injured badly by these men and yet when it comes to a court hearing where she can do that he’s not allowing her to do so and I for one have a big problem with that. I personally am very uncomfortable with what he’s done and continues to put her through and excluding her from court. That’s all messed up. We both know something is very illegal about that and morally wrong for sure. He wants to run for office and that is not his right. He’s no different than Bill Clinton or all these other guys who got themselves into trouble over a woman that was not their wife. We all know that she does have the right not to be put through a stalking ordeal and to make matters worse she’s extremely distraught over what happened to Chief Miller and Officer Nealey and again being kept out of a Court proceedings where her testimony likely would have changed the outcome. That’s 4 court proceedings where this occurred. You hear her talk in these podcasts, you can see why he has a problem with her talking in a Courtroom. She says the same thing, the very same thing in Court that she says in these podcasts, he’s through. You and I both know that’s what he’s doing. He is doing everything she said and how much does he have that isn’t legit, he manufactured something or came to have information illegally or came to have both information illegally and information that if she explains it, it makes sense but he twisted it. That’s my concern and her concerns about if he’s a threat to one he is to all are also my concerns. I am also concerned about the safety of other people he sees are in his way. You got her and Mike Nealey both with evidence of some sort of illegal substance being given to them, Perry’s connected to both, neither are tested. You see why that becomes a concern when both, look at what this Pinto guy said ‘You could ruin his career in politics’ to which she says all she wants is to be left alone. She’s now long gone from Texas. It’s of no consequence to her one way or the other. She’s in his way. Same with Mike. He just takes a report on vandalism and is tasked with the job of proving or disproving Perry may be the perpetrator and in a week he’s also, even by account of Escambia officials, given a substance which is illegal and is strong enough to knock him out? You see my problem here? Who is next? Who are we going to bury next because everyone looked the other way and went after her for talking about the need to worry about the potential for loss of life. I’m not on board with that. Okay? I don’t know how you or anyone else could be. Okay? I’m not on board with what I’m seeing here at all. That’s all I’m saying. “

Click here to hear “Pinto’s” conversation with Cynthia at her work. He was one of many of Perry’s proxy stalkers.

Click here to see Perry’s 2nd Attempt To Impede Court Proceedings, Cynthia’s ability to comply with Court requirements and To Use Her Family to Hurt Her

Charles Perry Recorded Discussing Forcing Her Entire Family To Sue Her In Another Effort To Force Her To Do And Say What He Demands Against Her Will, Intent To Tamper and Coerce Through Fraud and Litigation Harassment

Several updates are posted below

March 23, 2021 -Perry again interferes with Cynthia ability to appeal. He has been interfering in all civil proceedings from day one, illegally, so this is just more to add to what we already have. This blog alone covers 4 to 5 years of events, dates and times of Charles Perry’s criminal activity. He’s told on because he so badly disturbs people with what he is putting Cynthia and her family through. Never been more told on in his life. Click links below

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1073559836473893&id=100014596601592

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1073520733144470&id=100014596601592

Update March 19, 2021. Perry got caught on trying to isolate Cynthia from her family and now again today trying to again arrange a second false arrest and violate her rights and was wanting to know if she’s read her college Criminal Justice textbook covering prisoner rights. Recorded again.

“It’s public that he was trying again to arrange a second false arrest since the first one didn’t work out and violate my rights while I was there hoping I wouldnt know the difference. He got caught planning a crime against me again.” We’re he not hacking he wouldn’t know what class she was taking or what was in her text book in order to ask these questions. The more he invades her privacy, contacts her, causes duress, stress, problems, drama and loss the easier it is to get this information on his intent to cause harm to prove pre-meditation to cause malicious harm. He intends to coerce. That is his goal. He’s demanded she lie. She’s refused despite having suffered and suffered and suffered loss after after loss because she won’t. See more at the link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=992280804636871&id=183694208828872

Cop in Oklahoma tells cops from somewhere else that have been protecting Cynthia that he is hearing people are tired of Perrys drama and want him gone. He gives warning for Cynthia safety. See link below

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1069773073519236&id=100014596601592

Basically Charles Perry has attempted to entrap Cynthia and that was addressed by a Judge. See link below:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1071058686724008&id=100014596601592

From the same police investigating Charles Perry on many other criminal matters, who provided all this here, he is recorded again today.

My cop friend said “We got a recording of Charles telling individuals I’ll not disclose at this time who.they are but I’m sure you can guess that he wanted your entire family to sue you, to isolate you, to alienate you thinking that would force you into his bribe and lie. He’s running some pretty suck fantasies through his mind and discussing them with other people and trying to force your family to help him force this in you. They have been threatened and harassed to death same as you have. He’s really gone monster on this this one and it is fraud and we will put him in prison for this in addition to everything else when we complete this investigation into his entire criminal organization. He is to leave you and your family alone. This will just be another charge. It is intimidation, coercion, tampering and fraud and he will be charged. “

If they move forward with what they discussed in this recording my cop friends just got about an hour ago, it will be another criminal charges. They are to cease and desist all contact with me and everyone I know immediately or they will be charged.
What they still are not getting us that leaks come from angry people at watching what they are putting me through and my family. The more Perry contacts me, invades my privacy, butts into things he shouldnt even know about and causes loss the quicker and easier we get information like this. I can’t keep having to repeat myself.

It’s filed under “Let’s See If He Does It” and tagged “fraud” . It’s another threat and duly noted for the record. “

Emailed and documented Perry’s next cruelty.

Tends to support the evaluations of mental health experts who call Perry a sadist, erotomatic delusional stalker, antisocial, sociopath.

For his efforts for the past ten years what Perry ends up with are these recordings of him planning some hideous crime against his target, no chance of a date with her and told on more than ever in his life because what he’s doing is bothering and disturbing people so they leak and it goes to police and ends up here and some other places too within law enforcement. He has no idea who leaks or to who in law enforcement they leak.

See one shrink’s comments at link below:

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The cop tells us “They were recorded and we just got it, discussing the intent to overwhelm you with so many Plaintiffs you won’t have money to fight it. They want your entire family as Plaintiffs to make you feel overwhelmed enough to feel coerced, forced and in duress enough to lie. Perry is intent on forcing you to lie. That’s a crime. If he does this, he will be charged with a crime as will his attorneys and co conspirators. He pissed everyone off again with this vicious attack on you and we got the recording of him planning it, thankfully. They discussed complete diversity, amount in controversy and this is a strategy to coerce and intimidate you.” The police tell Cynthia Ortiz.
You dont do stuff like this if the witness is wrong. You only intimidate witnesses who have something of value. She’s right about Lucky’s murder. They implicate themselves the more they try to do to intimidate witnesses, coerce lies, and cover up their crimes and they do that constantly. “

Quote from Cynthia’s email:

The judge granting investigatory orders said “Why has Mrs Perry not gotten her husband into a mental.hospital by now? She has the legal authority to have him admitted. He’s clearly a danger to himself and others.” The Shrink said “She may be a victim of his abuse too.” He said “At this point there is, in my opinion no excuse for that because once she has him admitted the abuse against her is over. I want her charged too when you guys are done with your investigation and ready to file charges. As far as I’m concerned her failure to act in the best interest of even her own family is aiding and abetting. She needs to be charged as well and her attorney can explain to the Courts why their client let this go on so long in her own house and she did not take the appropriate actions to deal with it as a reasonable prudent individual and you and I both know Perry needs to thank his lucky stars Cynthia rejected him because had she not we all know she would have. We have heard locals in Oklahoma speak to that as well so it appears to me to be common knowledge that were Cynthia in that position she would have had Mr Perry admitted and probably many years ago. ” 
So Jackie is in some trouble too. “

More from her email here:

For some time the police on the need to know, referred to as McNamara Cops” sometimes, have obtained recordings of Charles Perry first discussing “There won’t be a new home for her or a new car. Make sure she can’t get that.” Remember this is the individual who claims he’s not a stalker. He claimed Oklahoma Courts have no jurisdiction. Only after a very big fight was I able to move forward. Then the comments on recordings were “See she can’t complain now. She got what she wanted. ” The response “Did you not see how hard she had to fight just to get a little bitty place to live and a little bitty car. Whatever she has, she has to fight with him to get it and then once she gets it, she has to fight like hell to keep it. This is a grown woman in a free country fight a guy she wants nothing to do with just to have the little bit she has then to keep it. He is not supposed to be in her life at all much less trying to make decisions as to what she can and cannot have. That’s just wrong. ” 
Later Perry was recorded stating “I should never have let her sign a lease. Get her kicked out. Get her out of Oklahoma. ” He wanted a family member to try to talk me into leaving the state. There were discussion.s about where he’d make me move to, and realtors consulted on housing. He told his guys “Get her car away from her and get her kicked out. Get her a bus pass and then she will call me and do what I tell her. They discussed forcing me to move to New Mexico, back to Vegas, Miami, but he wants me out if Oklahoma. Again this is a stalker, not someone I want in my life at all much less making decisions like this. Why would he care where I live? What’s it to him? He’s got an agenda. It’s not good. It’s cruel. Again he’s already testified he has no contacts giving Oklahoma Courts jurisdiction over him. This is an injury. Nothing in my life is any of his business. It’s the same thing as if Boy George fell in love with you, put cameras in your house, had you followed, started trying to get you fired or kicked out of your home, take your car, had meetings with your friends and family and asked them to help hurt you. Imagine what would you do if some person you didn’t like put you through all that because they decided they could and that’s how it was going to be and did it against your will. What would you do? Thank God I have help. That’s all I can say. I’ve done all one can do to try to get away from this whackjob. 
The next thing I knew is the landlord did try.to do a few things Perry was recorded talking about having them do. Now because my family is here, Perry’s conversations over this weekend we’re since asking them to talk me into leaving the state either was nixed for some reason or they refused he discussed a major law suit in which he wanted them all added as Plaintiffs. They discussed whether or not to file the suit in Texas, NM, or Oklahoma. They discussed the amount in controversy being over $75000. They discussed the fact that they wanted the lawsuit to bury me in so many Plaintiffs and hurt me so deeply that I couldn’t fight back and would finally lie for him. He said in the recording “I want her buried so deep in Plaintiffs so that she has no money to fight them all and it cuts her off from her family so she will do what I tell her. ” Again not a person I want in my life at all much less making these kinds of decisions. He’s way overstepping his bounds and this is not only “just wrong” as the guy put it, it’s flat out bazaar. This is abuse. It is domestic violence. It is intended to cause emotional and financial distress. The fact that he does such hideous things to me on an ongoing basis is the reason people tell on him. 
Our shrink spoke to this weeks ago. “When you care about any person at all just as a person and you are asked to do something to hurt another human being and something you know is wrong, that request in and of itself is psychological torture. It causes one to feel stress, anxiety, guilt, depression, they are uncomfortable, they feel creeped out, and disgusted and scared. If they weren’t scared they wouldn’t do it. He’s threatening to ruin businesses and have people false arrested the same as he did to Cynthia. He’s intimidating people, and that is a crime, or there is no way they’d help him at all much less cause such hurtful devastation . He’s a sadist. This a sexual enjoyment for him. Again he couldn’t do it if it wasn’t. He sees it as a relationship because he and only he gets a sexual gratification from doing things to other people that you and I consider heinous and unthinkable. For some when they have seen no way out of what they view is a hard and horrible situation they don’t wish to be in, if we are able to reach out to those individuals without being detected, we have no problem getting full cooperation. We relieve their suffering they feel by being asked to cause someone else suffering. This is for all normal human beings so imagine how much worse it is for Cynthias family and her friends are as tired of watching Perry cause suffering and want for her happiness same as anyone does for their friends and family. It is Psychological torture for both Cynthia and whoever is asked to cause her harm. ” 
One of my friends at work who was asked to harm me told me of what she was asked to do and said “You know it goes against who I am to hurt another person.  I can’t do it. I can’t imagine why he’d want to do somethimg like this to you. I dont understand. I think you are dealing with someone who is wired so fucked up that one strand breaks and he would flip out and do something like shoot up school. I feel like he’s that miswired. Like it scares me. I feel like Mr Perry is that miswired and one wrong move he snaps and you got dead people everywhere but at the same time I cannot hurt you like he asked. I don’t know what to do. You tell me. ” I said “Tell him someone.else intervened and you weren’t able to. ” Whether she did or not I dint know. Next thing I knew, she quit and went to work somewhere else. She just left. That is how deep the disgust goes here with this creep and his delusions imposed on am entire community of good normal people who are sickened by what he’s doing and I have also asked my police friends to include an arrest warrant for Jackie when they.are ready to move forward. There are other people involved in his “business”. They dont want to have any need to plea bargain to get information on other people. They already want all the names and already have a case built against each one so high there is no possibility of a not guilty verdict or them re-entering society ever. That takes longer. Unfortunately it takes longer but at the end of the day the results will be freedom. People who Charles would have robbed of a future will have their future bright and cheery before them with out him in the way. 
He’s told on because his conduct so deeply disturbs that those who tell are sick and disgusted and not tolerant of how hideous he is to me and other people. Never in his life has he had this kind of investigatory body up his ass at all times. He’s not getting it even yet. As many times as I’ve quoted him verbatim while he’s in some meeting asking someone to commit a serious crime and injury to me, it’s still not clicking for him. Nobody understands that. We had five doctors review his case and all five not only believe he’s mentally ill but severely  clinically mentally retarded not to be able to put that together in his head by now. “If you hurt people, you will be told on. You have have no idea who tells or who in law enforcement they tell but you will be told on and you will go to jail. ” That does not click for him at all. Something is clearly wrong with the intellect, logic, and reasoning part of his brain. They want a brain scan. “If you hurt people, they wont like you. ” Also not clicking. “If you invade privacy, you will be known as a sex pervert and not liked. If are mean, nobody will help you be mean. ” Things like that we all learned and understood about social norms and acceptable civilized conduct are not clicking for Charles. Even when I’ve said “You have no chance ever at a date with me. You call any of my ex’s and they will tell you how they treated me to win my heart. Not peeling, not butting in where you dint belong, not crossing boundaries, not taking my family away, not putting me in jail, not taking my car. They did none of what you obsess about doing that I find repulsive. ” This is basic normal knowledge that no one should have to explain to a man of his age at all much less repeatedly and he still can’t grasp that concept. He still doesn’t get it. Goes right over his head thus, the medical preliminary evaluation. Criminologists, criminal psychologist, neurologists and so on can act as consultants for police and gear the very same recordings I’ve heard and make an evaluation. Perry truly believes his own bullshit. He thinks by forcing me against my will to leave my family after he’s threatened and harassed them to death and do things not even normal humans do, I would then call him and do what he wants. Why would he think that? Has he met me? You do that, you will piss me off and I’ll find a legal to fuck you up so bad you won’t recover. That’s me. I don’t bend over for sickos or corrupt like Perry. I don’t do it. I never have. I will get in his face and make him cry for him mamma. Nobody has done more to fight his crime than my team and I. He’s been caught in alleged crime more than ever before in his life since he met me. What does that tell you about how I handle low lifes like him? He’s not the first I’ve handled and he won’t be the last. You fight crime and you relieve suffering or like cancer it will cause death of some sort. I am my Granddad’s Granddaughter (former Police Chief in Roswell NM where I grew up) to my core. I could have taken the bribe long ago. So could my cop friends. They have stood face to face with Perry getting him to divulge all kinds of information and he had no idea. He thought they were voters. Had they wanted a bribe, they would have said something then. 
So all this Perry has tried to do comes down to attempts to coerce. It’s not just creepy stalking of a delusional erotomaniac. It is tampering and attempts to coerce. Why coerce someone who doesn’t know where the bodies are? Why coerce someone who is wrong about Chief Millers murder? What does a reject care about where I live? What I drive? He testified he has no connections to this state giving this state’s courts jurisdiction. Perry is dying for me check dockets. There is not a day that he isn’t pushing that, so why? What corrupt thing did he do that he wants me to see that badly? I will look when I’m told by police to look, not when Perry pushes. Where I live and what I drive and my job is none of his business and doest concern him or he needs to hold a press conference to notify the public that he intentionally lied under oath in a Court of Law about his true activities in the forum state of Oklahoma. Meantime there are 35 guys investigating him that got me all this information that know exactly what Perry is doing in the forum state of Oklahoma and Florida. 
This email is to document the information contained herein to establish intent and pre-meditation to commit come against me, Cynthia Ortiz, in the forum state of Oklahoma where I live by my own choice and free will. “

More here: “

From what I’ve been told, and these are the same police that gave me The McNamara email and everything since, their prosecutor is so disgusted by the fact that I’ve not been heard in any hearing and at the Orders with no explaination, just a signature. I said “A five year old can sign their name on a piece of paper” He said “or a monkey. Where is the evaluation of your evidence, facts, and standard applied with case precedence in any of these orders at all. In my case we aren’t giving him a plea deal option. We will go straight to trial because I’m going to make sure you are heard. This is bullshit. ” 
So you do what you do. Know what the consequences are when you do it.”

More from her email: “I’m not commenting on smoking, but to say my house has always smelled wonderful no matter where I live and I’m always complimented on that. Since he is peeping he can tell everyone whether or not I smoke inside my home. He can explain that one. I won’t comment in it one way or the other.
That is a sick crime, by the way to peep on women.  Since he’s a peeping tom, he can tell everyone whether I smoke inside and explain why my home smells like it smells and how the hell he would know any of that. “

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Perry has, over the past few days, harassed Cynthia and harrassed and harrassed her about checking the Dockets. Is he expecting her to be happy about whatever corrupt thing he did that will show up there? Is he that delusional? Why do something like that? Why in the hell would anyone do something like that?

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